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So i was watching beyonce's performance at the billboards (Illuminati?) (pg. 4)
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| Fledz |
| lol at the "real women" argument. Might as well pull the "racist" card while we're throwing about arguments. |
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| DancingMonkey |
Of course, the first thing you must master when becoming a woman for the first time...
The obligatory internet profile cleavage shot. If you're a woman and haven't done it yet, please send your submissions to my PM box. If they qualify, you are indeed an official woman. |
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| aquila |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
the funny part is even on hormones i'm still more a man than you'll ever be |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by DancingMonkey
Of course, the first thing you must master when becoming a woman for the first time...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fM0vTq7wM3Y/TZknPJx5N9I/AAAAAAAAABg/fHmY6jFeR10/s576/4a.jpg
The obligatory internet profile cleavage shot. If you're a woman and haven't done it yet, please send your submissions to my PM box. If they qualify, you are indeed an official woman. |
I dont have much cleavage yet.. That was 3 months before I started hormones. That photo is a result of not being able to fit inside the frame. If I had cleavage, you sick s would be the last to see it.
Also its worth noting that you downloaded that photo and uploaded it to your google account. And no, i'm not interested, jerk. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
nefardec, shut the up. |
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Who the do you think you are?
No. |
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| MeLLyMeL |
Are people talking about the symbol or the fact that she copied the performance?
I think it's cuz she copied the performance. |
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| Amduscias |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
Are people talking about the symbol or the fact that she copied the performance?
I think it's cuz she copied the performance. |
She copied the performance? |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Amduscias
She copied the performance? |
She definitely copied the song:
http://youtu.be/g2nmgcVbfKE
Seriously worth watching.
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| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
What I don't get though is how you can have a 100 women on stage dressed like prostitutes and sing about female empowerment. I mean fine, you can say 'they dress that way for themselves', but in origin that look was developed for the male gaze, and obviously it's still meant to attract that. In effect it plays right into what men want women to be, and then seduces people into celebrating it. |
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The schema for women dressed like that = prostitutes/whores/hookers. That isn't empowering imagery and really isn't in line with the message of the song. The director of the music video and this performance was on crack or something. More likely just pandering to the lowest common denominator though. |
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| Fledz |
Looking attractive is also an evolutionary trait to attract the opposite sex, both in humans and other species. Stop with the strawman arguments that feminists throw about all the time.
Yes, there is a point that can be made about the sexualisation of women but you're completely and deliberately choosing to ignore the other side as well. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Looking attractive is also an evolutionary trait to attract the opposite sex, both in humans and other species. Stop with the strawman arguments that feminists throw about all the time.
Yes, there is a point that can be made about the sexualisation of women but you're completely and deliberately choosing to ignore the other side as well. |
Hyper-sexualized women do not conjure up images of strong, powerful and intelligent women (which is what the song is praising).
Just saying that it isn't in line with the message of the song and I find that unfortunate, but not at all surprising. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| Nothing says feminism like women telling other women how they should dress and behave. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Nothing says feminism like women telling other women how they should dress and behave. |
nothing says misogyny like men (barely) telling women what feminism is and isn't.
in the words of domesticated, please shut the up already. |
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