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lets follow this one closely and see what happens (pg. 3)
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| Adam420 |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
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Agreed. I love hot women police officers. |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
my biggest question is whether there was a clear line of fire (meaning, no other people behind the hobo) and no other people in the trajectory of the rounds. |
4 officers fired one shot each at a hobo with a knife. 4 shots to take down a man wielding a knife. what kind of rules of engagement is that ?? remember, these are not mean streets of afganistan, there is no suicide bombers in mtl. and still 4 shots for one bum !!
the whole system is corrupt, fat cats are scratching each others backs while innocent bystanders pay the price. in this case it was an innocent mans life. what's next? who will pay for this poor guys life??
im sorry if i sound a bit melodramatic but this is ing huge. seems like nobody gives a anymore. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
4 officers fired one shot each at a hobo with a knife. 4 shots to take down a man wielding a knife. what kind of rules of engagement is that ?? remember, these are not mean streets of afganistan, there is no suicide bombers in mtl. and still 4 shots for one bum !!
the whole system is corrupt, fat cats are scratching each others backs while innocent bystanders pay the price. in this case it was an innocent mans life. what's next? who will pay for this poor guys life??
im sorry if i sound a bit melodramatic but this is ing huge. seems like nobody gives a anymore. |
why are you so intent on making a judgement without knowing all the facts?
For all we know, the bum could have been running towards someome. Have you ever fired a gun, esp with running and adrenaline?
For all we know, the cops are at fault.. or not. Benefit of doubt until we get the facts anyone? |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
Benefit of doubt until we get the facts anyone? |
sure
3 innocent bystanders shot in the past 6 months.
nobody arrested or charged with anything.
more facts ??? |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
sure
3 innocent bystanders shot in the past 6 months.
nobody arrested or charged with anything.
more facts ??? |
i was referring specifcally to this incident |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
i was referring specifcally to this incident |
if it was an isolated incident, sure. god forbid but does happens. but this ???
do you really need facts to realize that maybe those who are supposed to protect us have way too much power in their hands? in fact, they were given so much power that nobody is being charged with anything and 99% sure this incident will be swept under the rug, like all those before.
even worse, like malek pointed out, people who are not fit to protect and serve are being hired to do just that. i am not being sexist, far from that, but how am i supposed to feel safe if a person whos supposed to catch criminals and enforce justice is 5'1" ?? or 300+ lbs heavy?
here are some facts : just to be politically correct, guvernment is hiring people who are unfit to enforce the "rules", thus leading to a heavily use of gadgets (guns, tazers, pepper sprays and such) which leads to straight up murders that nobody pays for.
plus, ask yourself, what kind of training is provided for them if you have one unnecessary death every 2 months?
all that aside, how can you trust your judicial system that slaps gangbangers on the wrist with 7 years in pen (minus time served, of course) for snuffing out a life of a 15 years old with a bright future in front of her??
we dont need to have all the facts to see that something is very wrong. im not trying to pass the judgment here, thats not my job. but how can any of us sleep safe at night knowing that tomorrow this can happen to our fathers, sisters or our children?
you think we'd be asking for facts then (god forbid)?? |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
seems like nobody gives a anymore. |
Perhaps one day our fellow Canadians will wake the up. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
all that aside, how can you trust your judicial system that slaps gangbangers on the wrist with 7 years in pen (minus time served, of course) for snuffing out a life of a 15 years old with a bright future in front of her??
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Please don't have a heart attack if you read below:
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Justice minister, prosecutors on defensive for Operation SharQc fiasco
Quebec Justice Minister Jean-Marc Fournier meets reporters on the liberation of 31 people accused of gangsterism Wednesday, June 1, 2011 at the legislature in Quebec City. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jacques Boissinot
Updated: Wed Jun. 01 2011 9:38:03 PM
ctvmontreal.ca
A day after a Superior Court judge released 31 suspects in a Hells Angels mega-trial, the Quebec Justice Minister and prosecutors office were each playing defence for their handling of the 2009 police sweep called Operation SharQc where 155 alleged biker gang members were arrested.
Justice James Brunton criticized both the ministry and prosecutors Tuesday in releasing 31 suspects in the mega-trial because he didn't feel they could be tried within a reasonable timeframe.
On Wednesday, Justice Minister Jean-Marc Fournier did his best to assure the public that the province did everything in its power to ensure the mega-trials could go forward.
"There were enough resources, let's start with that," Fournier told reporters in Quebec City. "I tabled a letter by the deputy minister establishing that."
Fournier expressed his confidence that Brunton's acquittals of the 31 suspects would be overturned on appeal, but the opposition in the National Assembly wasn't buying it.
"They were acquitted because of mediocre planning," PQ Leader Pauline Marois asserted.
Marois went on to blast the government for bungling the "biggest trial in Quebec history."
"Who should be blamed for this fiasco?" she asked.
Premier Jean Charest answered that he has "total confidence" in his justice minister.
"Quebec made major efforts in the investigations to bring criminal bikers to justice," he said.
"We are determined to do everything necessary to ensure that those who are accused will face justice -- and that's exactly what we're going to do."
Quebec's prosecutors called an impromptu press conference to aid in the defence of the government and the whole mega-trial process.
They said it is the only tool available to them to efficiently fight organized crime and claimed they do indeed have the resources they need to get the job done.
"With what we have, we can function," chief prosecutor Francois Briere said. "(But) I'm not saying we don't need more help."
However, other prosecutors have anonymously told CTV Montreal justice reporter Stephane Giroux that Quebec already has a shortage of judges, prosecutors and available court rooms to handle the regular case loads, let alone large-scale mega-trials.
Meanwhile, defence lawyers argued that the last of the 155 accused in Operation SharQc would not see a courtroom before 10 years had passed, and that kind of a wait time is unacceptable.
"It was like 160 people needing heart transplants, and we'll do them all tomorrow," said criminal law expert Jeffrey Boro. "Well, there's not 160 cardiac surgeons that are prepared to do this type of operation tomorrow, and it's he same with the justice system."
Pierre Morneau, one of the defence attorneys for the Operation SharQc defendants, said the whole thing was too ambitious to begin with.
"What is a mega trial?" he asked. "The number of accused, or the magnitude of the evidence? Here, we have both."
With the remaining 124 suspects from Operation SharQc set to begin their murder trials in the coming days, the prosecution is hoping nothing will derail those cases.
With files from The Canadian Press
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Yes you read this right, cops working months/years with mega budgets and mega means to bring Hells Angels to a mega trial, done all for nothing!
Our justice system can't process them all in a reasonable time delay, thus they are released!!!!:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
1-Taser are banned in Montréal (maybe in Québec can't remember)
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they aren't...only tactical or swat are allowed to use them.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Knife+wielding+woman+tasered+Montreal+police/4917710/story.html |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | | Meanwhile, defence lawyers argued that the last of the 155 accused in Operation SharQc would not see a courtroom before 10 years had passed, and that kind of a wait time is unacceptable. |
lol, unacceptable. so if a diddler gotta wait 5+ years for a trial thats gonna be unacceptable too??
no heart attacks malek, just a righteous anger towards these jokes that call themselves our leaders !! |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| due process is a right for everyone...sorry. |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
due process is a right for everyone...sorry. |
how did you react to this? |
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