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How much do you trust strangers? (pg. 5)
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It's just as naive to think people are inherently 'bad'. Where does your standard come from? The same people you suppose to be inherently flawed? Yeah? Yeah.
People are people. Anyone who tries to simplify the matter are lying to you because they have lied to themselves first. |
standard comes from experience, contrary to what was learned (that people are good). I wasn't saying we remain indoctrinated (otherwise people would remain good). Hence my beautiful imagery of a cracking layer through which you can peer through, and be peered at through...
I was merely offering an alternative to the people saying people are good, which is laughable. Fighting fire with fire and whatnot :cool:
alsooooo: What I was really saying was if you assume people are bad you're more likely to be pleasantly suprised, than if you assume they're good, which will lead to perpetual dissapointment. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
No wonder you think I'm a hippy, I come from the other end of the spectrum :p |
i wish i were more like you sometimes. but then some pisses me off and i remember why im not. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| I guess there really is something to be said for one's attitude/outlook toward the world around them. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| quote: | Originally posted by knowhope
Schadenfreude? |
Reporting for duty. |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
No wonder you think I'm a hippy, I come from the other end of the spectrum :p |
Someone needs to do a TA spectrum of misanthropy. :)
Like a cool graph with Lira placing on the far left and Jay on the other side. Or PKC. Or me, as I'm Lira's evil twin brother :stongue:. |
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| knowhope |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
Reporting for duty. |
I was wondering if PKC is a person who just plainly hates people and don't mind them or that he would go far enough to have a guilty pleasure of enjoying peoples miseries.
So PKC, how far is it? What's the level of hatred. |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
Fighting fire with fire and whatnot :cool: |
"Meaning
Respond to an attack by using a similar method as one's attacker"
What the are you talking about? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
standard comes from experience, contrary to what was learned (that people are good). I wasn't saying we remain indoctrinated (otherwise people would remain good). Hence my beautiful imagery of a cracking layer through which you can peer through, and be peered at through...
I was merely offering an alternative to the people saying people are good, which is laughable. Fighting fire with fire and whatnot :cool:
alsooooo: What I was really saying was if you assume people are bad you're more likely to be pleasantly suprised, than if you assume they're good, which will lead to perpetual dissapointment. |
Quite on the contrary.
From an a priori perspective, it makes much more sense to assume we're neutral until proven otherwise, kicking both the warm and fuzzy optimism and the jaded misanthropic pessimism to the curb as hasty generalisations. All the upetry present in the world can be a sign that we're terrible just as the awesome things people have done throughout history show we're terrific, so that's a dead-end.
If, however, you stick to the facts, and read about moral psychology and primatology, a much more complicated picture emerges: we're extremely cooperative as social animals, and cheating often comes as a way to "make things even" when we feel we've been given the shaft for a reason or another. Psychopaths are a famous exception because they lack the necessary empathy to make cooperation successfully work but, in general, there's an overarching sense of moral we have (even if we can't agree upon the rules) because of how essential these systems are in social life. Frans de Waal has given us a very interesting account of how morality may have evolved, and there's also a trilogy compiled by Walter Sinnott-Armstrong about moral psychology that explore these issues quite well.
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i wish i were more like you sometimes. but then some pisses me off and i remember why im not. |
I'm often disappointed myself :p |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
That being said, I trust Strangers just fine. I mean, I sat on my hand for like 3 minutes straight; I know where it's been. |
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| -FSP- |
| How about people who aren't organ donors? I'm not an organ donor because I don't want to donate my organs to people who don't want to donate their oragns. Come on people! Please keep public bathrooms clean, and donate your organs. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by -FSP-
How about people who aren't organ donors? I'm not an organ donor because I don't want to donate my organs to people who don't want to donate their oragns. Come on people! Please keep public bathrooms clean, and donate your organs. |
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