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Can you break the code? (pg. 3)
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
LFAI SI A AMSSVEI UQREE! |
UQREE? |
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| Tasty Onions |
No hints, unless maybe it lasts a really long time and nobody comes close. But I think some people here will be able to crack it with a bit of effort.
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
Tasty you know I got this! |
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| Redd |
My girlfriend is shaking her head at me because I get frustrated by this.
There are no succeeding periods in any of the quintuplets.
The single period is most likely a period.
The quadruplet on the end of the next paragraph leads me to believe this is either for ! or for ?
The decimal value for a period is 46.
If I go with the decimal theory this means that +--. represents either 33 or 63.
If a quintuplet represents a letter, there are about 204 letters in the first paragraph. As Eddie pointed out at most 5 identical quintuplets repeat themselves. Also not a single quintuplet appears twice in a row. This means a quintuplet represents a formula with at least 1 variable. (the letter "e" repeats itself a LOT more than 5 times in a 204-letter sentence, also no quintuplets in a row means no double consonants)
The problem with this theory is that I'm missing ' and , in this sentence. ' should turn up as 39 - , as 44. .
I think I have to start over again. |
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| Redd |
I just hope you haven't based this on a custom table of letters and symbols. If you have this can't be solved.
If this had only been letters you can make a table from the alphabet, but as there has to be symbols in these sentences the only table to go after is the ascii one.
The . and +--. is really annoying me because I can't see how they are the only symbols. ' and , should make more doubles/triplets/quadruplets in there. Unless . is zero (46), +--. is +17 (63) and anything below zero (' is -7 (39), , is -2 (44)); is calculated/represented by quintuplets. Which makes this even more of a hassle. It would mean one of the symbols (+-*.) either represents a negative number or there is subtraction in the formula.
. = 0 (might explain why it doesn't appear twice in any of the quintuplets)
+ = 1
- = 2
* = 3
+--. = 1()2()2()3()X (X being the variable) = 17
Yeah this has got like a trillion solutions, and I can't even be sure my translation of the symbols is correct. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
I just hope you haven't based this on a custom table of letters and symbols. If you have this can't be solved.
If this had only been letters you can make a table from the alphabet, but as there has to be symbols in these sentences the only table to go after is the ascii one.
The . and +--. is really annoying me because I can't see how they are the only symbols. ' and , should make more doubles/triplets/quadruplets in there. Unless . is zero (46), +--. is +17 (63) and anything below zero (' is -7 (39), , is -2 (44)); is calculated/represented by quintuplets. Which makes this even more of a hassle :D |
i think Eddie has something with his colour coding of repeating patterns. |
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| Redd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
i think Eddie has something with his colour coding of repeating patterns. |
The colors don't mean anything. The fact that there are repeating quintuplets might mean something. But because of what I wrote earlier about letters like "e" repeating itself way more often than only 5 times in a 200+ letter sentence, makes me think it has to be a variable in the formula translating the symbols to a letter.
The fact that the quints +-+*. and -.+-- appears succeedingly three times is, however, something to take note of, and might be the key to figure out whatever variable we're dealing with. |
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| Redd |
I already thought about translating the symbols +-* to decimals as well as ., but this doesn't make much sense because of the ' and ,-dilemma.
The first quint would be 43 43 43 42 46, added makes it 217
Second quint: 45 46 42 42 45, added: 220
Third quint added: 222
The range of the quints goes from 42 42 42 42 42 to 46 46 46 46 46 - meaning 210 through 230. This isn't a big enough range, so simple addition is out of the question. Also, since the friggin . on the end is there I can't seem to grasp what formula should make any combination of 5 two figured numbers something even close to the decimal value of letters - while also making . translate to 46. |
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| Tasty Onions |
| Interesting conjectures so far. :disbelief |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
The colors don't mean anything. The fact that there are repeating quintuplets might mean something. But because of what I wrote earlier about letters like "e" repeating itself way more often than only 5 times in a 200+ letter sentence, makes me think it has to be a variable in the formula translating the symbols to a letter.
The fact that the quints +-+*. and -.+-- appears succeedingly three times is, however, something to take note of, and might be the key to figure out whatever variable we're dealing with. |
So do you think I'm chasing my tail, looking for duplicate encoding, on that or is further analysis called for - even if all it does is rule it out? You definitely seem to know more about this than I do. My thinking is that, even if he's recycling quints so that they pertain to two or more values, there's still an underlying pattern that would reveal something. |
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| Tasty Onions |
| If you guys would like, I can post a longer ciphertext, so you have more material to work with. |
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| Redd |
| As long as ' and , are represented in the messages you've written, I don't see the need for more. |
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| Redd |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
So do you think I'm chasing my tail, looking for duplicate encoding, on that or is further analysis called for - even if all it does is rule it out? You definitely seem to know more about this than I do. My thinking is that, even if he's recycling quints so that they pertain to two or more values, there's still an underlying pattern that would reveal something. |
You're absolutely right looking for duplicates. In this case I'm almost positive they rule out that two identical quints represents the same letter. It complicates things a LOT, because it can mean so many different things.
I don't have any knowledge about cryptography myself, I just find these puzzles interesting.
My posts are just ramblings, me thinking "out loud". |
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