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Can you break the code? (pg. 6)
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tasty Onions
Actually, I will say one thing right now to correct a certain mistaken assumption, because it has been kind of painful to watch you guys work based on it:
^ This is correct. The spaces are merely cosmetic. So the grouping of characters into sets of five has no special meaning.
More substantive hints if Eddie gives the okay. |
In light of this, I'm giving the okay. That was something I actually considered but I just didn't think you were so devious.
I feel like I don't even know you, anymore. :p |
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| Tasty Onions |
:stongue:
I have no weed-filled Reese's to offer. Maybe I will make some kind of reward available, though. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| 414. That’s an error. |
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| Tasty Onions |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
In light of this, I'm giving the okay. |
I had a couple hints typed out earlier, but given Meat187's post in the meantime, I will just say this: keep his points in mind and you will be on the right track.
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
- In the first segment I count 1006 symbols "+", "-", "." and "*". That number can't be divided by 3, 4 or 5 which means it's not a simple code replacing letters with a fixed length symbol representation.
- For variable-length codes you need to knwo where a unit begins. For this one can use a prefix-free code or a separator.
- Since the only combination that never occurs is ".." it's likely that the "." is such a separator.
- A typical variable length code is the Huffman Coding.
- If the meaning of specific code chunks doesn't change then it can usually be cracked using the Letter frequency. If the meaning of a chunk varies then it's a lot more difficult.
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| Taipan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tasty Onions
unless maybe it lasts a really long time and nobody comes close. |
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| Tasty Onions |
Another hint: Meat187 is correct that "." is a separator of sorts. It is used to separate the symbols into pairs of strings. For example, "+++*.-." is the first pair, and "**-.+." is the second pair, and so on.
Now you need to figure out what the pairs mean.
;) |
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| Taipan |
| I know "complicated" is a relative term, but the fact that you thought anyone here would be able to solve this without any hints is just ridiculous! |
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| Redd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taipan
I know "complicated" is a relative term, but the fact that you thought anyone here would be able to solve this without any hints is just ridiculous! |
The problem was that he put spaces in there after every 5 symbol, which messed everything up. He might as well have put in a bunch of random numbers at random intervals here and there, just to be ignored. It's a nice way to make a code ing hard to crack. |
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| R.j. |
| I say it has to do with multiplication, addition, and subtraction. |
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| Taipan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
The problem was that he put spaces in there after every 5 symbol, which messed everything up. He might as well have put in a bunch of random numbers at random intervals here and there, just to be ignored. It's a nice way to make a code ing hard to crack. |
Haha, yea, that's true, cause the Q's are the first thing people notice.
But even with all the hints - its still ing hard! I'm looking at these "Pairs" he speaks of. So each string has 2 segments which together translate into a single letter?
I can tell you right now nobody is gonna get this. But I'm still very curious - so just tell us already Tasty! |
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