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Man With No Name Essential Mix from 1998 (pg. 6)
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| JonDC |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Any other TAs going to the next Cream Reunion? MWNN is playing, along with Tilt live and Quivver. I had to miss the last one, but I'll walk through brick walls to make it this time. |
I'm in like Flynn :-) |
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| samuellamont |
Only just seen this! Without wanting to get involved or start it up again I've got to pull Sand Leaper up on a couple of things particularly as I suspect you never went to Cream in that era so I'll give you an insight.
Have you seen the weekly lineups from Cream around 96-2000? The crowd were as knowledgeable as anywhere in the country, it was all about finding out what the new record Oakey played that week was and pestering 3beat records every day until they had it.
The likes of MWNN, TILT, Slacker, Amoeba Assassin, Salt Tank have all performed in the Courtyard alongside Oakey, Sasha, Digweed and even LTJ Bukem and the Chemical Brothers. Yes we know it was Oakey that crossed the psy sound over but Cream loved it or he wouldn't have hammered it towards the end of his sets for 4 or 5 years. Sadly before my time but he played his goa mix that he did in 94 in the Annexe. Cream was a club he knew he could do that.
Yes the Main Room could be commercial particularly in the mid 90's handbag era though Nick Warren then became resident in there in 97, and ok you'd have people in there just to say they had been to Cream but not the Annexe and Courtyard, that was special and people travelled the country to be a part of that.
Of course TILT aren't going to be playing their new/ more recent stuff, they understand what the night is about!
The night is aimed at over 25's purely because its a reunion and they are the people that used to go and we stated that on the tickets for the first one to prevent any of the current cream 18-21 afrojack idiots going. That worked but we then had inquiries from those that were younger brothers/sisters or just loved the music and we didn't want to discriminate them so it is over 18's but having looked at ticket sales nearly everyone has been over 25 so it suits everyone.
Be cool to see a few of you come down, the last 2 haven't disappointed as any that went would tell you and I think this has the best lineup of the 3. |
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| AdagioforString |
Oh sh ...when they dropped: Three Drives on A vinyl - Greece 2000 (Man With No Name remix) in the mix... ing wowed
The mix itself is a win and made of awesome.These guys never fail to deliver. |
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| AdagioforString |
| Man With No Name - Teleport, holly ing I get goosebumps every time hear this classic .The tune is amped. |
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| Redd |
| quote: | Originally posted by AdagioforString
These guys never fail to deliver. |
Man With No Name is Martin Freeman, one guy (Man). |
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| Chimney |
Michael Kohlbecker - Cadillac [Qube]
I've checked the label, but there is no release of this track. None that I could see. |
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| Woonyxoxo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Redd
Man With No Name is Martin Freeman, one guy (Man). |
Didn't they used to be a guy and a girl? |
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| RebeL9 |
Just felt I'd give this brilliant set a nice christmas bump. It never gets old.
Oh and btw. I already identified the third track for Chris but for the rest of you it's Magnat - Liberate. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Just read through this again. I did go to that Cream Reunion and Sand Leaper was spectacularly wrong on every point he made. Nobody played any new tracks at all (pretty sure that hasn't happened at a single CR event yet by any DJ), and half the club stayed until 5am to hear MWNN finish his set. The CR group on Facebook has about 2,500 members and the music discussions on there show a huge level of knowledge for the music of that era.
People love to be revisionist in their cynicism towards '90s superclub culture but the simple fact is that Cream attracted a rabid fanbase who loved the music and still do. |
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| Sand Leaper |
This old chestnut again? Alright, since this is an old thread, I guess rehashing some of my arguments wouldn't hurt too much.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nobody played any new tracks at all (pretty sure that hasn't happened at a single CR event yet by any DJ), and half the club stayed until 5am to hear MWNN finish his set. The CR group on Facebook has about 2,500 members and the music discussions on there show a huge level of knowledge for the music of that era.
People love to be revisionist in their cynicism towards '90s superclub culture but the simple fact is that Cream attracted a rabid fanbase who loved the music and still do. |
At no point did I ever claim that people who went to Cream were not passionate and knowledgeable about the music. My claim was that these people were in the minority compared to the masses of people who were drawn to Cream because of its reputation as a superclubbing brand. That the guys who were booked didn't play any new tracks, or that a Facebook group containing a small group of the brand's total base of punters is discerning towards the retro aspect of this event does not prove this claim wrong in the slightest.
Regarding my other claim, namely that the event could possibly not turn out as oldschool-centred as promised due to point I made above and the artistic circumstances, I already conceded that this would not be a problem in practice due to the information that came to light in this thread from the promoter. Indeed, I'm happy the event turned out to be an old school success. However, this does not change that I was justified in being skeptical, considering the examples of "old school" being thrown to the wayside that I brought up alongside said skepticism. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
You weren't justified in being skeptical because you jumped to a negative conclusion and argued it across several pages without doing a modicum of research that would have invalidated your arguments before you'd even made them. The assumptions you jumped to showcased a dismissive attitude towards Cream and its punters, towards the promoters and towards the DJs being booked, who were respectively assumed to be clueless or self-aggrandising. I know perfectly well that Cream had a large percentage of tourists and trendsters, just as Fabric, Berghain, Womb and every other world famous club does today. But that doesn't mean you were in any way correct to take such a negative angle, or to claim my "arguments reek of prog trance fanboyism of the highest order" for not agreeing with your spring-loaded cynicism.
And just for clarity regarding these examples of old-skool being thrown by the wayside... setting aside a Photek set you heard on the radio once, can you please list the retro-themed events you've actually attended that featured DJings playing modern material in a display of self-promotion? All the ones I've been to, such as Future/Past or Shine in Leeds or Plasma Future in Manchester, have always featured DJs who completely understood the concept and were happy to relive halcyon days, as well as knowledgeable and passionate crowds who could trainspot the majority of the records being played. |
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