Based on his radio show and releases, I didn't think he was that special. But I saw him live for the first time at Monster Massive last year, and it blew me away. He's amazing live. He uses samples and track edits a lot, so you hear songs live that you'll never hear anywhere else. Plus techno always sounds best live, because it needs a lot of bass to shine.
Some videos of that gig (thanks to fellow TA trance_seeker):
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by corjay9
Just like Danny Tenaglia, they're known for their DJing skills. If this wasn't trance addict you could probably add Sasha to 'not relevant'.. I've never seen Cox but he's in town this sunday at Stereo and I got my ticket. He's playing an extended set, Nicole Moudaber is opening. Tickets online are sold out and I think only a few will be sold at the door..
I see Sasha mentioned outside of TA a hell of a lot more than Cox. He's on the front page of Beatport right now, for example. Although Cox is on the front page of RA, which admittedly undermines my original point somewhat.
Tweak
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It means his incidence with currently popular trends, which is usually an important part of both measuring and maintaining success. Nobody talks about Carl Cox - there's no journalistic features by him, no threads about him, no artists mention him in interviews, he doesn't seem to feature highly on popularity polls, no matter who is being polled. I don't see his records in shops anymore, he doesn't come up on Beatport or Amazon. He seems to be completely irrelevant to everything happening in dance music, which would normally mean his popularity would go down. Certainly if I were just getting into dance music in 2011 Carl Cox would not register as a major DJ.
This was a guy, don't forget, who was once #1 on the DJ Mag poll, who spent so much time on the front cover of Mixmag he took out a mortgage on it, who had cameos in films like Human Traffic and It's All Gone Pete Tong. In the late '90s, you couldn't get away from Carl Cox. Compared to those days, he's totally invisible. How do people know he "he causes large masses of bodies to move non stop" when nobody talks about him? Is he just drawing the same crowd every year?
That's a great description of all the that doesn't matter. All the fluff that people complain about, all the things that the superstar celebrity douchebag djs own these days.
To remain popular and still play all over the world, despite forgoing this nonsense, is an awesome achievement.
Lunar Phase 7
It seems really weird a black dude playing this sorta stuff, aside from the guy out of tilt I cannot literally think of another black guy that plays non-urban edm.
Anyone know of anymore?
chode_breath
Geez, you gotta be ing kidding mate. Carl Craig, Rob Hood, Alexis Tyrel, Octave One, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Juan Atkins, Todd Terry, Larry Heard, DJ Bone, Frankie Knuckles and loads and loads more.
Woonyxoxo
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I see Sasha mentioned outside of TA a hell of a lot more than Cox. He's on the front page of Beatport right now, for example. Although Cox is on the front page of RA, which admittedly undermines my original point somewhat.
Pretty funny, you make this thread and a day later that RA exchange pops up :p
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
It seems really weird a black dude playing this sorta stuff, aside from the guy out of tilt I cannot literally think of another black guy that plays non-urban edm.
Anyone know of anymore?
What? Are you a ing idiot? It's weird that a black guy plays techno? Techno was invented by black guys, house was invented by black guys. Most of the most stone-cold legendary DJs of all time were black.
me Lunar, just as I was starting to gain a modicum of respect for you.
stevö
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Originally posted by Tweak
That's a great description of all the that doesn't matter. All the fluff that people complain about, all the things that the superstar celebrity douchebag djs own these days.
To remain popular and still play all over the world, despite forgoing this nonsense, is an awesome achievement.
wow, you said what i did with far fewer words. i have to learn that.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Tweak
That's a great description of all the that doesn't matter. All the fluff that people complain about, all the things that the superstar celebrity douchebag djs own these days.
To remain popular and still play all over the world, despite forgoing this nonsense, is an awesome achievement.
I didn't say it did matter. What I've made extremely clear is that relevance is usually an essential part of popularity, and it's very unusual to see a DJ remain popular whilst losing relevance. That's what this thread is all about.
rdevito
Great DJ, producer.
Johan (DJ Irish)
Being the founder and owner of the Intec record label is Carl Cox perhaps getting some secondary "relevancy" from there?
My feeling is that Intec isn't extremely relevant either but I might be mistaken.
Adam420
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Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish)
Being the founder and owner of the Intec record label is Carl Cox perhaps getting some secondary "relevancy" from there?
My feeling is that Intec isn't extremely relevant either but I might be mistaken.
It's not as popular as many other labels pushing this sound but their releases still get picked up by a lot of DJs.
Concerting the OP, Jack you're obviously referring strictly to his production side. In clubland he is still very relevant, trust me. The man has basically owned Ibiza for the last 2 years, and his local appearance on Sunday will be sure to sell out.
