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CD Lengths & the new digital age
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| tubularbills |
| When casettes came out and people made mix tapes and such, they were only 30 minutes long (60 if it was high quality). with the advent of the Compact Disc (CD) age, that changed drastically to a whopping 80 minutes you could burn onto a CD. But now with CDs becoming less and less, and mp3s/streaming/itunes/amazon/whatever becoming larger and larger, do you think that the "average" mix length will change? I still find that most mixes I get from here on TA (ala dj promo forum) they are anywhere between 60 and 80 minutes, 80 usually being the max you could burn to a music CD. even myself, if I compile a mix, it's never longer than 80 minutes. I don't really know why, because mp3 players, phones, ipods, whatever can stream/play up to 10s of hours of music. anyone else think about stuff like this or just me? |
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| Adam420 |
| It just feels right. |
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| corjay9 |
The point of making a mixtape is to showcase your skills and sound.. 60-80 minutes is the perfect amount to do this.. Longer and you'll just close it anyways.
I've downloaded some 3 hour live sets, I've never gotten through a whole mix in one sitting. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| An hour of music always feels like the perfect amount of home listening time to me, perhaps because I'm from the CD generation. Two hours is a pretty good length of a mix, partly because radio sets like the Essential Mix and partly because two hours seems like your typical club set length these days. It's very difficult for me to find time to listen a set longer than two hours. |
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| mehta |
for a couple of years I streamed a couple of great russian techno radio stations 24 hours a day
a few months before I moved out the guy living downstairs told me that he hardly slept the entire time he lived there
that was a long set |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
When casettes came out and people made mix tapes and such, they were only 30 minutes long (60 if it was high quality). |
What casettes are you talking about?
Casettes I used were C-60 (2x30 minutes), then C-90 (2x45 minutes) which I used most, and even some C-120 (2x60 minutes). C-120 could be too much for some players though.
Next to that I think there also was a bit strange C-46 minutes version.
Quality differences were like Normal (Fe2O3), Chrome (CrO2) and Metal if I remember correctly.
I think the 80 minutes would have been 90 if 90 fitted on a cd. I think the C-90, the most popular (blank) casette IMO contributed a lot to mix lengths, at least for me it did.
I hated the first cd's which only could hold 74 minutes (650 MB). The 80 minutes versions (700 MB) came later. |
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| Vector A |
I've seen the argument made that with the appearance of CDs, the release of "filler" tracks became more common because there was now more time available on the most popular format, making artists a bit more likely to include "iffy" tracks.
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
I've seen the argument made that with the appearance of CDs, the release of "filler" tracks became more common because there was now more time available on the most popular format, making artists a bit more likely to include "iffy" tracks.
:p |
right....but then they came out with DOUBLE releases on CDs. Man, I remember when I got ISOS 4 I was stoked because it was on 2 CDs. then I listened to it and was like, "wtf is this?" lol. seriously though, it went from 30 min casettes to 80 min CDs to 160 min 2CD releases, to now the possibilities are almost endless for streaming/mp3 formats.
I remember getting Tiesto's Heineken liveset and it took 4 CDs to burn to it (before I had an mp3 player).
also, I guess what I was referring to was for casettes that first they were 15 minutes on each side...then 30 minutes...then 45 minutes. I can't remember seeing anything more than 45 mins per side. which, now is kind of funny because we went from 90 minutes on casette DOWN to 80 mins on CD. |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubularbills
also, I guess what I was referring to was for casettes that first they were 15 minutes on each side...then 30 minutes...then 45 minutes. I can't remember seeing anything more than 45 mins per side. which, now is kind of funny because we went from 90 minutes on casette DOWN to 80 mins on CD. |
The 120 minutes casettes got eaten by most players. Most walkmans also had problems with those too.
Especially from 90 to 74 minutes was a disappointment, but 80 minutes were a relieve especially when overburned to something like 83 minutes.
Around 1988 you had 90 minutes casette, 2LP and also 2CD (of the same release), although CD versions then often were sold separately Volume 1 and 2. |
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| Dj Pluviose |
| I guess I would be looked at as crazy by most of you since I made a 3 hour mix intended for live gigs. |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
I guess I would be looked at as crazy by most of you since I made a 3 hour mix intended for live gigs. |
Just a pre made mix for live gigs is not what I think of regarding "live", unless you do the same mix again, but then live. That you made a 3 hour mix is long but not crazy IMO. |
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