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Just what is djmag's issue with trance? (pg. 2)
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
DJ Mag is a ing joke.
Surpassed only by mixmag, don't stress over it. I mean when the person on top of their charts is boo-ed at their own party and is basically a joke of a producer who rips off melodies from other tracks they have to try and justify it somehow don't they?
They'll be gone in a few years. |
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| AY STAR |
dont live your life according to what dj mag or mixmag have to say...
years ago they were respectable mag's now its all just i dont even know i stopped getting mixmag delivered to me once they started gettin very mainstream with the electro and crossover sound as well as starting to do articles about bands :conf:
once in a while tho they do put out good mix cd's
as for the top 100 list and trance...that list has very few actual "trance" dj's in it
guys like ferry,emery,atb,above and beyond,armin etc etc
arent trance...they are pop and their sets are predictable with vocals,mash-ups,euro trouse and their hit's
minus the top 10 (which is pretty much the same guys as dj mag top 10) the tranceaddict top 250 poll makes alot more sense and is more diverse |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Trance was widely derided during its heyday and the mainstream dance press have been ting on it for years now. Of course, they still have trance pages in the review sections covering the same terrible music they criticise, because they get paid by PR companies to cover those records. If these magazines had any journalistic integrity they would either not cover trance at all or support the trance music out there which is still good quality. They don't, because there's no money to be made in print journalism any more. Nobody will pay to read about music when you can go online and get the same information for free, so they have to pay the bills through marketing and PR revenue. That's why these magazines used to be quite informative and interesting, and now are just flimsy hype-mongers and product pushers.
The only music magazine I bother to read for electronic music is The Wire. |
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| Woonyxoxo |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Trance was widely derided during its heyday and the mainstream dance press have been ting on it for years now. Of course, they still have trance pages in the review sections covering the same terrible music they criticise, because they get paid by PR companies to cover those records. If these magazines had any journalistic integrity they would either not cover trance at all or support the trance music out there which is still good quality. They don't, because there's no money to be made in print journalism any more. Nobody will pay to read about music when you can go online and get the same information for free, so they have to pay the bills through marketing and PR revenue. That's why these magazines used to be quite informative and interesting, and now are just flimsy hype-mongers and product pushers.
The only music magazine I bother to read for electronic music is The Wire. |
http://de-bug.de/ is pretty good if you can look over some of the feuilletonistic bull regarding technology and culture, but it's in german. |
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| DJInfinity |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Trance was derided in mags as far back as the late 90s, when the clubby Sash! sound was quite popular. Really, as soon as trance stole euro-dance's glory as 'the gateway genre', it forever became EDM's whipping boy. |
I'm glad you mentioned Sash!
I think he's a very undermined producer...shame his work hasn't done so well, save the occasional track here and there.
The way I see it, a lot of the more famous producers such as Tiesto, AvB, Swedish House Mafia, David Guetta etc are regarded by the "lay community" (aka noobs) as what trance music sounds like and oh boy, are they wrong. I read an article which called "Swagger Jagger" by Cher Lloyd a trance song, ffs. I think that's a lot of the reason trance is looked down upon, because a lot of mainstream producers which get labeled as trance well...they suck! Just my 2 cents. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Sash! hasn't done so well? He's sold 20,000,000 records... |
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| freakster |
| how many people on here actually read dj mag (excluding the top 100 issue)? |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Sash! hasn't done so well? He's sold 20,000,000 records... |
Yes, but at what price to his credibility? At what price, I ask you. |
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| Trance-MB |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Yes, but at what price to his credibility? At what price, I ask you. |
Probably same as Scooter: NOT GIVING A ABOUT THAT YEAHHHH :) |
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| Lotherton Hall |
| quote: | Originally posted by AY STAR
dont live your life according to what dj mag or mixmag have to say...
years ago they were respectable mag's now its all just i dont even know i stopped getting mixmag delivered to me once they started gettin very mainstream with the electro and crossover sound as well as starting to do articles about bands :conf:
once in a while tho they do put out good mix cd's
as for the top 100 list and trance...that list has very few actual "trance" dj's in it
guys like ferry,emery,atb,above and beyond,armin etc etc
arent trance...they are pop and their sets are predictable with vocals,mash-ups,euro trouse and their hit's
minus the top 10 (which is pretty much the same guys as dj mag top 10) the tranceaddict top 250 poll makes alot more sense and is more diverse |
I dont mate. But they remain the taste makers in the printed edm press, in the UK at least.
Agree with your take on the big names. Im desperate to hear some good, new hypnotic, melodic trance. Rex MUndi is the only thing that has come close for me lately, but his last tune was garbage too. |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Yes, but at what price to his credibility? At what price, I ask you. |
I'm not sure he ever had that much of credibility in the underground scene. He catered to the mainstream audience from the very beginning starting with Encore un fois, Ecuador, Stay and co-working with other mainstream artists such as Dr Alban and Tina Cousins (hot ass). |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lotherton Hall
But they remain the taste makers in the printed edm press, in the UK at least. |
The importance of which you seem to be over-stating. You may as well be lamenting about how Volvo sold out for their latest product placement and cross-promotional contest relating to the new Twilight film. Taste-makers? I just don't recall any genre dying out from editorial neglect or abuse, for that matter. |
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