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My first track (pg. 3)
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| zeKsg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
awww thanks so much you guys. some rly good feedback here, esp from dani + chez. really apreciate taking the time to write. :) |
The one thing you have that others don't is your ability to share your progress... Unlike some people whose supposed standards are way to high to ever release anything.
Good job trying for sure, but I really don't feel the vocals and I never understood why it turned into a trend...
The other problem is it does kind of sounds like the rest of stuff from this genre on beatport. |
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| Ravemontreal |
| funny, why do I have a feeling you are talking about me? ;-) |
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| zeKsg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
funny, why do I have a feeling you are talking about me? ;-) |
:gsmile: |
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| Ravemontreal |
Well my 'supposed' standards are mine, and I don't need to share my crap and have random opinions to know if what I do is good or not.
Each path to DJing or producing is a personal one. |
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| Marcus007 |
completely agree man
speaking of which, i would especially appreciate your critique martin :) |
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| Ravemontreal |
| There's several ways to look at this, so my critique would either be useless or very long.... |
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| zeKsg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
Well my 'supposed' standards are mine, and I don't need to share my crap and have random opinions to know if what I do is good or not.
Each path to DJing or producing is a personal one. |
Those random people could be your dearly fans, and on the contrary of Marcus's epic debut I think there is at least something you have mustered up in your producing dungeon over the course of however long you were at it that is good enough to be your debut, be it not the masterpiece you always chase; it could still be the first real step towards that.
Just a thought. |
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| Ravemontreal |
Wel that's why Beatport is full of crap. Because people think that putting a kick and a snare together with some random noise is a decent debut.
To each is own. I personally don't give a to see my name on Beatport.
If I release, it will be because I feel my work as an artistic merit and I will be proud of myself. Until then, I don't need people to be witness of my crappy and painful progress. |
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| Ravemontreal |
| Anyway this topic is about Marcus' raise to fame, not mine :-) |
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| PivotTechno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ravemontreal
Wel that's why Beatport is full of crap. Because people think that putting a kick and a snare together with some random noise is a decent debut.
To each is own. I personally don't give a to see my name on Beatport.
If I release, it will be because I feel my work as an artistic merit and I will be proud of myself. Until then, I don't need people to be witness of my crappy and painful progress. |
QFT - so many people release "tracks" these days just because it's so painfully easy to do so.
wise words from someone who knows:
| quote: | "When you go to create a track, make sure you come out with a hit. If you don't feel like it's a hit when you're making it, it could be a hit, the whole world could dance to it - just don't do it. Turn it off. Don't keep making stuff that's mediocre."
- Paul Johnson |
I have stuff that I've been sitting on for a decade - it's not matured enough to see the light of day, and I won't put it out for public scrutiny until it is. |
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| Marcus007 |
im actually not opposed to the thread taking a different direction (although i would still love your feedback, Martin).
what's that quote saying you have to learn when to take the pen away from the artist. meaning that after working on something long enough you have to let go and see how it's perceived.
i can speak subjectively about for example when I make my own films. I'm never 100% happy w the outcome, sometimes I'm not even 60% happy with it, but at one point I know it just isn't going to be any better and I have to let go and release it.
there are two distinct ways of thinking about this. one is martins, ie: he doesnt want to release something just to RELEASE it, he wants it to be fine tuned, or at least to his standards close to perfect. the other way of thinking is finishing a track and getting it out there right away. the threat there is that it may A) suck hard (and turn ppl off) B) be mediocore or C) be amazing and become an overnight success (if that still exists).
there is no 1 right answer. i do feel, however, one path pushes your career into a direction where as the second one limits the possibilities. but i get what you're saying and i totally respect that. you have to feel at least somewhat confident in your work before you release it. do you have any clue how many 1-2-3 hour sets I've recorded that have never even made it past my desktop/car. At least 10! Why? No not because the beat matching is bad, or the flow is ******ed, but mainly because I'm not completely happy w it and I compare my work to some of the best mixers out there and if it doesn't equal that work I'm just not going to share it. I think that's why I understand where Martin is coming from and I respect him.
It's a pity though because I've listened to your track awhile back at STEREO (old stereo, remember that?) and I really thought you had something special. Imagine that was years ago (5? 6?) I'm sure you've improved so much since then. But at the end of the day it's your decision so you must do whatever makes you happy. |
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| zeKsg |
I really don't think there is such thing as "perfect" with music. It is art after all.
As for Martin, I saw his little live skit he released. I know his sounds better then some of the stuff i buy from artists on big labels..
It would just suck if you would scrap something that might end up being a hit. |
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