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Permission To Drop Songs at Trance Events???
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| Devbert |
Me and my brother were debating today about whether or not major DJ's needed permission to play other people's songs at huge events (Trance Energy, Innercity, Mysteryland, etc.).
He argued that they needed permission because a lot of DJ's wanted to keep their signature style intact, as well as remain unique.
I argued that by letting others play their songs, they were getting a ton of free advertising, thereby increasing sales, as well as being part of the music community.
Even though we both have our opinions, I was wondering if anyone knows how this works? Does Tiesto have to ask Nalin & Kane permission to play "Open Your Eyes (97' Reworked Mix)" before he can play it at a major event? Can he play it a smaller event? Does it depend on if the event is being broadcast or not?
Thanks for your time and help. |
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| tranceDJ |
| Well, lemme ask you this: Who would refuse to have their track to be played in front of thousands? The sets aren't usually planned out either, the DJ just picks out the tracks so I don't know how they could know ahead of time and contacting all the artists would be a pain as well. |
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| TrancerbianMan |
| I believe that when you buy the record you also buy those rights along with it. |
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| DJ Logix |
| I was reading an article on a website some time ago about the whole mp3 and using mp3s to dj at events. And most promoters and clubs have a license i dont know exaclty what kind but i remember ASCII having to do with the article but anyway ur allowed to use anything rather it be mp3s cds a rework or anything at the event. If tha license is held ur allowed to play it no matter what. I don't know exactly how accurate it was but it seemed pretty convinceable to me. |
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| Dj_Psygnosis |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrancerbianMan
I believe that when you buy the record you also buy those rights along with it. |
Agreed. |
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| Strike |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrancerbianMan
I believe that when you buy the record you also buy those rights along with it. |
i think so too
and what about the local djs
it'll be pretty hard for them to contact PvD and the likes
so if a local dj could play it, i don't see why a major one couldn't
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| phyrest0rm |
I would think they don't have to ask permission.
Unless, however, the track was unreleased. But in that case, I assume if they already have the track, it must have been given to them for the purpose of playing it... so pay no attention to what i'm saying.
Hey! Look! Over there!
*runs away* |
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| Spad |
When you buy a vinyl (or a tape, CD, DVD etc..) it comes with a copyright warning giving copyright holders information and also regulations along the lines of "unauthorised copying, hiring, lending, public performance etc... etc.... is prohibited".
So I'd imagine that either the DJ or the Promotors of the event/nightclub would need a liscense allowing them to broadcast this type copyright material to an audience. The money paid for this would in some way finds its way back to artists. Similar to how a radio station would (though I believe radio concentrates more on the actual songs played). A DJ wouldn't need to ask each individual for permission to play their music if they had made it freely available on vinyl. In a lot of cases it probably would've been sent to them by that artists label anyway.
Just a guess. |
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| DJ NEILSON |
| yeah ive always noticed that public performace thing, but ALL dj's play cd's vinyl that are bought with this disclaimer.. its stupid really. maybe it onmly applies if you are stupid enough to try and pass it off as your own material?! |
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| Spad |
A lot of it is probably just an unwritten understanding between artists anyway. For instance if I made a tune and posted it on TA for people to hear, then heard Tiesto playing it at Crasher next month (it could happen!) I suppose technically it's my work and I've given no permission for anybody else to use it. I've never taken it to a label or intended for it to be released for public broadcast. However anybody interested in making music and interested in the business isn't going to be bothered about something this petty. There are probably quite a few areas open to lawsuits etc.. if people wanted to bother.
Again just a guess. I'm in "make random statements with no basis in fact" mode today :p |
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| DJ-Ande |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spad
When you buy a vinyl (or a tape, CD, DVD etc..) it comes with a copyright warning giving copyright holders information and also regulations along the lines of "unauthorised copying, hiring, lending, public performance etc... etc.... is prohibited".
So I'd imagine that either the DJ or the Promotors of the event/nightclub would need a liscense allowing them to broadcast this type copyright material to an audience. The money paid for this would in some way finds its way back to artists. Similar to how a radio station would (though I believe radio concentrates more on the actual songs played). A DJ wouldn't need to ask each individual for permission to play their music if they had made it freely available on vinyl. In a lot of cases it probably would've been sent to them by that artists label anyway.
Just a guess. |
yeah thats what i was thinking, you must need a license 2 be a dj and spin tracks with copyright laws binding on it:) :)
but i wouldn't complain if armin wanted 2 play my tune in front of thousands:D :D |
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| Helta |
Why create music if it can't be played?
*ahem* |
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