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New to Djing... Please help
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Trendsetterz
I am absolutely addicted to trance! And I really want to become a trance/electronica dj. I am learning to dj on a Traktor S4, but even though it is digital, I am learning the old school way by really concentrating on hearing and staying away from sync controls and what not. My first question in this dj forum is this... I'll be using the mp3 format of collecting music (however, I have a bunch of cds and am also prepared to burn tracks on cds for cd djing).. What is really good way to organize my music?? Should I organize by musical key, by bpm, by artist? Any help on this, or any other tips for new djs will be greatly appreciated....
Acton
Spend some time searching through the DJ Booth Sub-Forum, then send a demo to Simon Cowell.
[N]ûk|êû[Z]
already your more organised than i am, and i got my first set of decks in 1995.
i guess alphabetical is the best.. thats what i do. keywise, i just know what works and what dosnt.. but i guess thats just one of them things you learn with time without realising it, like knowing wether to speed up or slow down your next track without really actually paying attention to it too much.

best piece of advice i can give you, is keep away from the sync buttons, and the BPM counters.. i knwo you said your trying to learn without that, but i also know [since having to go digital in the last 2 years due to not having room for my vinyl decks anymore] that its so hard to not look at the BPM counters.. even if your not wanting to look at them, you somehow catch in the corner of your eye the BPM, then once you know it, there is no psychological point in trying to match the beats yourself. so dont get into that habit.

another idea might be to organise your collection by flow styles, i.e. intro tunes, mid-setters, and end setters. tbh ive never thought about doing this and ive literally just thought of the idea. but if you have trouble in flowing your set nicely, then perhaps this might be an idea, so your set has some direction.

but above all, keep at it. end of the day, DJing shouldnt be hard work and it shouldnt feel like a chore to learn.. it should be a pleasurable thing to do where you struggle to want to stop, rather than struggle to want to start ;)
Trendsetterz
Wow that was a fast! awesome, thanks very much. ya lol, i do sometimes notice the bpm counter in the corner of my eye, but if i look at it, i'll just restart :}. thats a good idea with the intros and the mid setters, i guess i just have to develop more of an ear to tracks that are good starters, good enders and what not...
corjay9
cut up a post-it note into a small square on the sticky side and put it on top of the BPM counter, thats what I did for the first month.
justin
try to keep your sets versatile. don't worry about genres and BPM and key. don't let anything like that compromise your mixes.
Organizing your music is easy but organizing a tracklist is another thing. which one were you refering to us about I wonder?
Trendsetterz
Thanks corjay, im actually gonna start doin that...
@justin.. I was actually referring to both... Organizing my entire library and organizing specific playlists for possible sets..
Vernon Wanderer
I do it like this:

Artist | Track |-------------------------| BPM | Key | Comment


Know your tracks well, play with them often, this is key to not being just a human jukebox.
justin
quote:
Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer
Know your tracks

Best advice for the newcomer dj thus far. My mentor used to say that to me over and over and over. "Know your records."
and he would also reiterate the point that the purpose of the dj is to take the crowd on a journey. anyhow... about the BPM counter. I say use it, just don't depend on it to be accurate. Fact of the matter is that a BPM counter is gonna get you closer to your desired tempo quicker than manually.
The only reason we tell you not to use it at all is because the only way you can develop a keen sense of pitch shifting is without its aid (manually).
Its more of a challenge but in the long run you will never look at your BPM counter again, even if its flashing right at you.


also, Isn't there a clever method to easily know the effect pitch shifting up or down has on the key?

I would like to know
KilldaDJ
simon cowell in your bowels

Trendsetterz
Definitely Justin, I WILL know all my songs! and I might be new, but I have done some research on harmonic mixing.. apparently every 6% adjustment on the pitch up or down means you must respectively move up or down 7 keys according to the harmonic mixing-wheel of the Camelot Sound Easymix System...

www.harmonic-mixing.com
Trendsetterz
^ and thanks Vernon : )
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