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Producing in the RED (peaking levels) ... does it really matter? (pg. 2)
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| meriter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Hitting red is never a good thing.
Ever. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
If it sounds good, it is good.
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The golden rule!
Caus' the area is gray in a 1,2,3way! |
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| EliPsE |
| The first thing I would do is check all the EQ'n to make sure there are no clashing frequencies or anything hidden in the low end. Try to have everything in it's own space. After you are done making the track, turn down all the channel faders to zero and start raising them with what you want to build around first (kick/snare etc...) I usually mix everything to -6db. I'm not sure how other DAW's work, but it sometimes doesn't matter if the channels are red as long as the master channel is not clipping at all. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| if your final out is hitting red ie values exceeding the possible parameters, you are clipping. So yes, it is a problem. It is clipping whether you can or not hear it. If you can't. i would see an ear doctor. Unless like it is under 3 samples which you probably won't hear but still, with float point DAWs, just lower the fader. Not the ideal solution but a quick fix regardless. |
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| DJ RANN |
me, I don't know why this hasn't been buried years ago.
As Mr Mystery said (and welcome back by the way), Hitting red is never a good thing. Ever.
Your individual tracks shouldn't (not that it matters if the master is not but it's bad practice and you'll get laughed out of any pro studio in a heartbeat if you think it's ok) and your master should NEVER CLIP. EVAR.
The entire ing point of mixing is getting the perfect balance of sounds, and that means mixing so that you are within the physical limits
of your medium.
If one track is clipping, pull it down, if you master is clipping the pull some/all of your tracks down until it doesn't.
I could care less if DJ XXX is doing it - it's probably because he's never worked in a real studio and doesn't know any better or give a .
Oh, and whoever said/infered about clipping with plugins and on your tracks is an effect; go ahead try it. This isn't the same as driving a drawmer compressor a bit too hot - clipping in the digital domain (unless a pseudo digital effect) is NEVER a good idea nor will it sound good. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
me, I don't know why this hasn't been buried years ago.
As Mr Mystery said (and welcome back by the way), Hitting red is never a good thing. Ever.
Your individual tracks shouldn't (not that it matters if the master is not but it's bad practice and you'll get laughed out of any pro studio in a heartbeat if you think it's ok) and your master should NEVER CLIP. EVAR.
The entire ing point of mixing is getting the perfect balance of sounds, and that means mixing so that you are within the physical limits
of your medium.
If one track is clipping, pull it down, if you master is clipping the pull some/all of your tracks down until it doesn't.
I could care less if DJ XXX is doing it - it's probably because he's never worked in a real studio and doesn't know any better or give a .
Oh, and whoever said/infered about clipping with plugins and on your tracks is an effect; go ahead try it. This isn't the same as driving a drawmer compressor a bit too hot - clipping in the digital domain (unless a pseudo digital effect) is NEVER a good idea nor will it sound good. |
So in other words:
"I don't like the sound of clipping."
Don't take this personally, but forums have too many wanna be engineers these days...we need more artists. |
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| Targus28 |
| If your cliping isnt due to an individual track, why not just pull everything down by a db at a time untill you go into the green? Then master it |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
So in other words:
"I don't like the sound of clipping."
Don't take this personally, but forums have too many wanna be engineers these days...we need more artists. |
True, we do need more artists, but I am actually a pro mix engineer so I'm going to give engineering advice.
"Clipping" isn't actually a desirable sound in any circumstances - overdrive or distortion is however, and you do that in specific ways; clipping just means you're gain staging is not correct, and even then, trying to overdrive or distort digital equipment is not a good idea at all. Just try it, it sounds like . |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
"Clipping" isn't actually a desirable sound in any circumstances - |
Some people want that sound...
Maybe not "a lot" but there are people out there... |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
Some people want that sound...
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Who and why? |
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| farris |
| quote: | Originally posted by Excess
...for example, there's a new track on armada that i recently tried to mix. it reads +2db... |
What now? |
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| Kam |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Who and why? |
every dubstep producer on the planet .... cuz they were born that way
:conf: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyes: :confused: |
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