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Producing in the RED (peaking levels) ... does it really matter?
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Kam
So just about every ableton tutorial i watch on youtube has the master levels always in green and not peaking, yet when i'm making my tracks i always seem to be in the red.

Now in all my tracks there isn't any distortion and i can hear everything clearly. When i export to WAV and listen to a finished track it sounds just how i want it to.

Am i making a big mistake still? Should i adjust all my channel levels to avoid RED or possibly add a limited to my master ?
madmuso
Probably safer to group all your faders and lower them so you dont lose your mix. You dont really need to mix so hot in the box. Are you getting your stuff mastered professionally? You may not hear any artifacts now but you possibly may once the song has been mastered due to quiet nuances becoming more noticeable. I dont think strapping a limiter on your main out/stereo buss would do much, you would just be limiting a distorted signal (if it is in fact distorting). Check out the ableton manual and see what it says about its meters maybe?
Then again, if it sounds good and your happy, that works too!
DJRYAN™
When I made music in Reason I did the same thing. Everything was always loud and the "clipping" light at the bottom was always lit. Now that I'm in Ableton, any peak above the line is very noticable and requires a volume adjustment. I'd say always go with what sounds good but also analyze your audio. If you have a bassline or lead or any other part that has transients that are outside the main part of your waveform then I would highly recommend fixing that by adding a compressor or limiter. I'd do that on every channel independently of the master. Then on the master channel I'd do it again. In my opinion not only is making music important but so is creating a solid waveform.
Mr.Mystery
Hitting red is never a good thing.

Ever.
Rodri Santos
try not to hit them but i've seen some XXX dj in the studio video and usually their finished productions are hiting the red meters so i think making clipping music is the standard now, only this way you can achieve that loudness
dj_alfi
Clipping and distortion are two completely different concepts.
It's more like a selective bitcrusher that s up your speakers.
Excess
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
try not to hit them but i've seen some XXX dj in the studio video and usually their finished productions are hiting the red meters so i think making clipping music is the standard now, only this way you can achieve that loudness


clipping purposely in the mastering stage with proper knowledge and plugins is way different from clipping during mixdown though. save yourself da issues, keep er green
Raphie
why do you think is shows red in the first place?
Storyteller
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Originally posted by Raphie
why do you think is shows red in the first place?


Because he's making a hot track!!!
Beatflux
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Originally posted by Kam


Now in all my tracks there isn't any distortion and i can hear everything clearly. When i export to WAV and listen to a finished track it sounds just how i want it to.



If it sounds good, it is good.

There are people are let stuff into the red. It's okay, nobody will get hurt. :P

Excess
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Originally posted by Beatflux
If it sounds good, it is good.

There are people are let stuff into the red. It's okay, nobody will get hurt. :P


meh not true. there are tons of tracks i would listen to on my ipod and NEVER play in the club. for example, there's a new track on armada that i recently tried to mix. it reads +2db, sounds great on ipod earbuds but absolute dog when it comes to representation on a real setup.

of course, there are guys whos stuff sounds great pushed that far. for example heatbeat's recent releases are all pushed to the extreme yet still hold up very, very well.

i guess my point is irrelevant. nobody really cares what a track sounds like on anything but earbuds so wtf am i saying
BritishLizard
As long as you do not hear any audible distortion a little peak in the red is not bad but for the sake that you are learning try to keep it below the red.
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