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House > Trance (pg. 3)
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| MelBeat |
| quote: | Originally posted by bigperf
so what you're saying is that the promoter(which i never referred to by name, i'm not a boris md) stretches the truth to put it lightly?
Interesting... |
I am saying that you cannot come to such a generalized conclusion like house > trance using only the promoter's opinion. |
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| jdub889 |
| the amount of logical fallacies spewed over the course of this thread is already mindblowing. |
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| tygamilk |
| quote: | Originally posted by MelBeat
After seeing him at the Exchange and the Yost I think you should give him another chance. |
I almost got a picture with him last night when he came into the club through the main entrance but there were too many people crowding him. Er. |
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| Quazar |
"House > Trance" is an opinion, so of course it's impossible to back up. If he'd said "House is more popular than trance", he'd have an argument.
House was first. House came from disco. House began with the mainstream, and goes underground and comes back up again over and over.
Trance is a niche, and will always be a niche. Even the trance that tries to be as mainstream as possible will not become more popular overall than a huge house track.
Whether trance or house is better is an opinion. But if you back away and look at it, house (as an umbrella term) is to trance what arena rock is to indie rock. Every once in a while a band like "The Killers" or "Arcade Fire" will blow up, sure. But they'll never be Coldplay or Bon Jovi. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdub889
the amount of logical fallacies spewed over the course of this thread is already mindblowing. |
Par for the course... of course. |
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| Tosh |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
"House > Trance" is an opinion, so of course it's impossible to back up. If he'd said "House is more popular than trance", he'd have an argument.
House was first. House came from disco. House began with the mainstream, and goes underground and comes back up again over and over.
Trance is a niche, and will always be a niche. Even the trance that tries to be as mainstream as possible will not become more popular overall than a huge house track.
Whether trance or house is better is an opinion. But if you back away and look at it, house (as an umbrella term) is to trance what arena rock is to indie rock. Every once in a while a band like "The Killers" or "Arcade Fire" will blow up, sure. But they'll never be Coldplay or Bon Jovi. |
Mostly agree. But in the EDM scene, there is, again, Armin, Ferry, Markus, old Tiesto, PvD... All leaders of the scene for many years.
House blended with hip-hop gets big outside of the scene.... But does that count? |
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| Quazar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tosh
Mostly agree. But in the EDM scene, there is, again, Armin, Ferry, Markus, old Tiesto, PvD... All leaders of the scene for many years.
House blended with hip-hop gets big outside of the scene.... But does that count? |
That kind of relates to what I was saying. Trance, as popular as it has become, it still part of the "scene" and hasn't branched out the way house has. I doubt you'll see a trance producer (who still makes trance) team up with a pop star and end up in the Top 40. The only time I can think of that happening is with "DJ Sammy - Heaven" and Cascada, but that's BARELY trance. It was really just Eurodance. |
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| in2muzikk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Quazar
I doubt you'll see a trance producer (who still makes trance) team up with a pop star and end up in the Top 40. |
Oh no, now you've challenged them. I'm sure that the new Deadmau5/Lady Ga Ga mash up will prove you wrong... :toocool: |
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| trancension |
So wait, a PROMOTER made a claim that a DJ he was PROMOTING is a "legend" and all of a sudden that means something? And the something that it's supposed to mean is that it is apparently easy for a trance DJ to be in the conversation for "legend" status? Seriously?
Do you ever even read what promoters write and say about the DJs and events they promote? 99% of it is exaggerated bull. They over hype and oversell the accomplishments of every act. They need a sold out crowd, and since the majority of the crowd is going to end up being "newbies", why not lie and exaggerate to attract them? Last time Tiesto was in Atlanta, he was marketed and promoted as a trance DJ as well as a house DJ. He played maybe two trance songs. Both being his own productions and classics.
So the point of my post, and the point of this thread is hopefully, who the cares what a PROMOTER says while PROMOTING. He or she will say and do anything to hype up the performer(s). Listen to what the actual fans have to say. And clearly, every trance fan agrees, JOC is nowhere near "legend" status. He has a few amazing songs, but he is far from being "legend" wait for it..."dary." |
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| bigperf |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancension
Do you ever even read what promoters write and say about the DJs and events they promote? 99% of it is exaggerated bull. They over hype and oversell the accomplishments of every act. \
So the point of my post, and the point of this thread is hopefully, who the cares what a PROMOTER says while PROMOTING. He or she will say and do anything to hype up the performer(s). Listen to what the actual fans have to say. And clearly, every trance fan agrees, JOC is nowhere near "legend" status. He has a few amazing songs, but he is far from being "legend" wait for it..."dary." |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdub889
the amount of logical fallacies spewed over the course of this thread is already mindblowing. |
Hey man welcome to TA. If you want a really wild (read: stupid) ride I can suggest a few posters for you to follow who are clinically retarded. |
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| Swamper |
| This thread is legendary. :toothless |
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