Originally posted by Storyteller
It's not hard to get a label response at all. You just have to approach them on a bit more personal level. I wrote a small tutorial about it an astonishing 7 years ago already and not much has changed honestly.
Originally posted by Storyteller
subject: bitch do you know who storyteller is?
you better have recognized by now who the I am. I want that ing contract before I send you anything. peace.
-storyteller
Awesome stuff.
Rodri Santos
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Originally posted by tehlord
Another factor that you may not know about in the US is that his name cropped up on a Ciroen advert in Europe several years ago, and because the ad was pretty cool and the soundtrack was 'pretty hip' for the time it instantly became a bit viral.
AT this point i think his electro was quite listeneable if he ever was a good producer it was at this point. Track is catchy.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by Woony
There's pretty big stigma against free music (not entirely unjustified if you ask me). I think it's more for psychological reasons. People will view music they pirate in a better light than music they got for free legally, as weird as it sounds.
Psychologically, I'm sure there are 'valid' reasons. I've even thought about it in terms of the Free Kitten Syndrom where a kitten being sold for five dollars stands a better chance of finding a good home than one being given away. There must be some sort of validation for the artist, as well. My whole outlook, however, is that producers essentially constitute a nearly unlimited supply at a zero cost. The people in a position to make money from their work rely on aggregating multiple songs from multiple producers, in order to do so. The producer, him or herself, makes very little money while the label-owner(s) stand to make a lot more. The label's operating in the black at the expense of ten producers, who operate in the red.
From that point of view, it doesn't pay to be a schmuck, selling your work to labels while still operating at a loss so that they gain. While your reasoning is valid, in so far as supplying an understanding of the situation, if people are unhappy with the status quo, giving it away helps alleviate that. If labels start counting losses because producers create a supply problem for them, they'll either up their game, making it more worthwhile for a producer to sell to the label, or they'll sink.
EDIT: People need to stop thinking about it from a psychological perspective and start looking at it from an economic one.
TranceLover007
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
Psychologically, I'm sure there are 'valid' reasons. I've even thought about it in terms of the Free Kitten Syndrom where a kitten being sold for five dollars stands a better chance of finding a good home than one being given away. There must be some sort of validation for the artist, as well. My whole outlook, however, is that producers essentially constitute a nearly unlimited supply at a zero cost. The people in a position to make money from their work rely on aggregating multiple songs from multiple producers, in order to do so. The producer, him or herself, makes very little money while the label-owner(s) stand to make a lot more. The label's operating in the black at the expense of ten producers, who operate in the red.
From that point of view, it doesn't pay to be a schmuck, selling your work to labels while still operating at a loss so that they gain. While your reasoning is valid, in so far as supplying an understanding of the situation, if people are unhappy with the status quo, giving it away helps alleviate that. If labels start counting losses because producers create a supply problem for them, they'll either up their game, making it more worthwhile for a producer to sell to the label, or they'll sink.
EDIT: People need to stop thinking about it from a psychological perspective and start looking at it from an economic one.
Wise words are in your comment Eddie, agree with your statement!!!
Darek
Looney4Clooney
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Originally posted by Storyteller
True. Sometimes it pays off to overplay your hand, take that quote and learn people.
any label worth being on would assume you are all ego and given that your music sounds like everyone else, why not just sign someone that doesn't think he is tiesto. That attitude won't pay off in the long run. Good labels want people they can work with. Posturing as an is a dumbass thing to do.
Nightshift
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Originally posted by Storyteller
True. Sometimes it pays off to overplay your hand, take that quote and learn people.
BOSS STATUS!
LoveHate
how long did it take you guys to get your first track signed, from when you started producing?
Storyteller
10 years. It came rather quickly after I could afford my own pc which was powerful enough for vst-based music production instead of just sample-based.
Storyteller
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
any label worth being on would assume you are all ego and given that your music sounds like everyone else, why not just sign someone that doesn't think he is tiesto. That attitude won't pay off in the long run. Good labels want people they can work with. Posturing as an is a dumbass thing to do.
I sincerely hope most people will have their sarcasm detector working when reading the quote you're responding to. :)
cryophonik
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Originally posted by LoveHate
how long did it take you guys to get your first track signed, from when you started producing?
About 2 years.
Raphie
define signed?
I've released on Marcel Woods "Blue Forest Recordings" 15 years ago on vinyl. I wouldn't call releasing with one of the thousands of "independent electronic labels" actually "getting signed"
"releasing" is overrated nowadays.
Maybe we should redefine releasing as "releasing under any of the Beatport top 10 labels" If your label is not a top-10 label, it's not a release, it's a hobby...........
Sensuerea
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Originally posted by Raphie
Maybe we should redefine releasing as "releasing under any of the Beatport top 10 labels" If your label is not a top-10 label, it's not a release, it's a hobby...........
That's more or less what I meant in the opening post.
