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Footage of Kristina Sky playing my track Kärlek (Thomas Bronzwaer Remix) during ASOT550! (pg. 3)
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| Trancelover03591 |
gratz on your track getting played whoever posted this. I am not sure how much I like the track musically and stylistically but I respect people who get their music played and it sounds well produced.
Honestly, I don't think she was all that over the top. Their are a couple different types of DJs. Yes, there is Sasha, Paul van Dyk and most notably John Digweed who are very still and reserved when they play. But there are also a lot of -good- DJs who do the exact same things she was doing. Ever seen Carl Cox play? Eddie Halliwell? Markus Schulz? I have seen those same hand motions and amount of movement from them. |
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| srussell0018 |
lol @ seandroid being such a butthurt loser.
And double lol @ "sometimes in the digital music age DJs just don't have anything to do" |
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| Seandroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
lol @ seandroid being such a butthurt loser.
And double lol @ "sometimes in the digital music age DJs just don't have anything to do" |
1. I don't think that word means what you think it means
2. That's not what I said, I said "sometimes in the digital DJ age," you can still beatmatch if you feel like it, but nobody does. With the sync button and even features that will match the key for you, the only thing that really matters is track selection. You can say that "A GUD DJ WOULD ALWUZ HAVE SOMFINK TO DO" but that's not true and you know it. I'm not talking like 10 minutes either, I'm talking like maybe 20 seconds.
Eddie, you want to talk about straw man... |
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| srussell0018 |
| You still need to google what straw man means. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Excuse me? Did you even read the post I was replying to?
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Yes. If anything, his comments could be construed as nostalgic. That said, it's not as though the nostalgia is completely misplaced. I was talking to the totality of your replies, however, and not just that one. Your reply to chris1011 is just as offensive, accusing him of favoring superficial technical solipsism ("Mash up the track to a point beyond recognition and annoy everyone in the audience?"). Again, Chris1011 probably wasn't even thinking along that vein but so long as you can opt for a strategic dominance instead of a reasoned discussion - that seems to be your preference. No one in this thread was attacking you, personally, yet more often than not, I consistently find you swinging here in Music Discussion in an array of topics from mainstream trance to dubstep; if anyone presents an idea that disagrees with yours, on a matter of taste, your best recourse has been to call them stupid.
You do great when it comes to extolling the virtues of music you really like. What you're horrible at is being able to entertain anyone else's viewpoint, other than your own. You look beyond despondent when you lash out at people who can't stand dubstep, as though it's an attack on your identity, and get cloyingly militant when it comes to defending much of anything that's mainstream. What you don't really understand is that there is a history, substantially deeper than your bogus argumentum, attached to other people's sentiments. There are diverse tastes that favor more than the homogenous, mid-range bass piped through PA systems, the sensibilities of which mainstream has outright rejected; and when it is so prevalent, people are right to be a little pissed off about it. |
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| skullyzempire |
| What the hell is this world coming to ? A Dj dancing to dance music!She should be ashamed of herself , the nerve. |
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by skullyzempire
What the hell is this world coming to ? A Dj dancing to dance music!She should be ashamed of herself , the nerve. |
What she's doing is not dancing. She is mimicking what she sees other famous trances do; prance about like a little twit to put on a "show" for people. off. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by skullyzempire
What the hell is this world coming to ? A Dj dancing to dance music!She should be ashamed of herself , the nerve. |
You're kind of missing a few key points. |
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| paulversuspaul |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Yes. If anything, his comments could be construed as nostalgic. That said, it's not as though the nostalgia is completely misplaced. I was talking to the totality of your replies, however, and not just that one. Your reply to chris1011 is just as offensive, accusing him of favoring superficial technical solipsism ("Mash up the track to a point beyond recognition and annoy everyone in the audience?"). Again, Chris1011 probably wasn't even thinking along that vein but so long as you can opt for a strategic dominance instead of a reasoned discussion - that seems to be your preference. No one in this thread was attacking you, personally, yet more often than not, I consistently find you swinging here in Music Discussion in an array of topics from mainstream trance to dubstep; if anyone presents an idea that disagrees with yours, on a matter of taste, your best recourse has been to call them stupid.
You do great when it comes to extolling the virtues of music you really like. What you're horrible at is being able to entertain anyone else's viewpoint, other than your own. You look beyond despondent when you lash out at people who can't stand dubstep, as though it's an attack on your identity, and get cloyingly militant when it comes to defending much of anything that's mainstream. What you don't really understand is that there is a history, substantially deeper than your bogus argumentum, attached to other people's sentiments. There are diverse tastes that favor more than the homogenous, mid-range bass piped through PA systems, the sensibilities of which mainstream has outright rejected; and when it is so prevalent, people are right to be a little pissed off about it. |
You hit it on the mark with the nostalgia comment. I preferred the scene when the DJ was the conduit to a great party to be shared by everyone in attendance equally. A true democracy of the dance floor. The music, the DJ, and everyone in attendance was on equal footing and part of a broader community. I don't mind a DJ enjoying the show, what I mind is a DJ performing fist pumps not because the music moves him to but because he is supposed to perform in front of a crowd that has come to worship him like a rock star. |
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| Seandroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Yes. If anything, his comments could be construed as nostalgic. That said, it's not as though the nostalgia is completely misplaced. I was talking to the totality of your replies, however, and not just that one. Your reply to chris1011 is just as offensive, accusing him of favoring superficial technical solipsism ("Mash up the track to a point beyond recognition and annoy everyone in the audience?"). Again, Chris1011 probably wasn't even thinking along that vein but so long as you can opt for a strategic dominance instead of a reasoned discussion - that seems to be your preference. No one in this thread was attacking you, personally, yet more often than not, I consistently find you swinging here in Music Discussion in an array of topics from mainstream trance to dubstep; if anyone presents an idea that disagrees with yours, on a matter of taste, your best recourse has been to call them stupid.
You do great when it comes to extolling the virtues of music you really like. What you're horrible at is being able to entertain anyone else's viewpoint, other than your own. You look beyond despondent when you lash out at people who can't stand dubstep, as though it's an attack on your identity, and get cloyingly militant when it comes to defending much of anything that's mainstream. What you don't really understand is that there is a history, substantially deeper than your bogus argumentum, attached to other people's sentiments. There are diverse tastes that favor more than the homogenous, mid-range bass piped through PA systems, the sensibilities of which mainstream has outright rejected; and when it is so prevalent, people are right to be a little pissed off about it. |
My problem is that I have a tendency to respond with knee-jerk reactions where what you're getting is raw emotion. The reason I got so pissed off is because people seem to forget how PRETENTIOUS they come across. I didn't take this personally, I don't even DJ, how could I be taking this personally? I got pissed off because the people in this thread were coming across as pretentious and stuck up because somehow the way she was dancing didn't reach their "high standards" of what a dance music DJ should look like. Sorry that she's not DJ Fred Astaire. I don't even know who this woman is or really like the song that's being played, I was simply defending her right to dance however the she pleases because obviously the audience doesn't seem to mind.
My problem with peoples' arguments against new types of EDM like Dubstep and Electro house is that their entire opinions are ONLY based on sentiment and nostalgia. People completely lose their ability to be logical because of those things. It's this stupid grass-is-greener mentality. Things weren't actually better but your mind sure as hell would love for you to think otherwise. People always look at the past with rose tinted glasses.
I mean, Eddie, you do the same . You are 100% ENTIRELY a stubborn mule when it comes to people discussing genres you don't like. You have never had a reasonable discussion with me about electro house or dubstep because you just constantly resort to calling it and your only reasoning for that is "BECUZ IT IS " only with a lot of superfluous words...
The only reason I take arguments like that personally is because people insult the genre of music I produce and in doing so pass everything I ever make off as before even listening to it or giving me a chance. If somebody said "every sculptor is because sculpting isn't art, unlike painting" and you happened to be a sculptor you'd probably be rather offended too.
| quote: | Originally posted by paulversuspaul
what I mind is a DJ performing fist pumps not because the music moves him to but because he is supposed to perform in front of a crowd that has come to worship him like a rock star. |
How in the world are you supposed to know why they're fist pumping? Maybe that's what they feel inclined to do with they hear a song they like....? |
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| srussell0018 |
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
My problem with peoples' arguments against new types of EDM like Dubstep and Electro house is that their entire opinions are ONLY based on sentiment and nostalgia. People completely lose their ability to be logical because of those things. It's this stupid grass-is-greener mentality. Things weren't actually better but your mind sure as hell would love for you to think otherwise. People always look at the past with rose tinted glasses.
How in the world are you supposed to know why they're fist pumping? |
so many words. so many pointless ing words. |
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