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The Official 2012 Lakers Suck Thread (NBA Playoffs) (pg. 3)
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| henryv |
| come on lakers! :( |
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| bigperf |
| Hows game 1 going, back and forth struggle thru 3 quarters? just finished the Celtics game. More interested in the other la series. |
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| gerard6975 |
| can't wait to watch the sweep this Saturday!!! and will be celebrating it on the rooftop on Sunday :) |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| OMG!! that was the most awesomist game i've ever seen. Laker fans... suck on these balls |
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| bigperf |
| rooting for the lakers tomorrow...want this one to go 7, harden and artest to get into a huge fight and when kobe and durant try to hold their team mates back, they pull a muscle in their arms. oh ya, that sounds like a nice scenario. GO SPURS, Pacers, 76ers! |
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| fantasyexctasy |
| Haters gone hate. Michael Jordan had two hall of famers, wtf is wrong with that supporting cast? Name a team with two hall of famers behind the best scorer of his generation? Will these Jordan drones never fail to amaze me with their regurgitated brainwashing. Lakers don't look like they'll pull this one off. OKC looks like they're unbeatable and on a mission. As for the Flop City Floppers, their bandwaggon is the most pathetic of them all. Their fans don't even see the flopping which just makes Mr laugh even more. |
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by fantasyexctasy
Haters gone hate. Michael Jordan had two hall of famers, wtf is wrong with that supporting cast? Name a team with two hall of famers behind the best scorer of his generation? Will these Jordan drones never fail to amaze me with their regurgitated brainwashing. Lakers don't look like they'll pull this one off. OKC looks like they're unbeatable and on a mission. As for the Flop City Floppers, their bandwaggon is the most pathetic of them all. Their fans don't even see the flopping which just makes Mr laugh even more. |
hall of famers? are you taking about scottie pippen and dennis rodman?
You mean Shaq (2 time NBA MVP during the first 3peat), Malone, Gary Payton, Gasol, and Bynum must be wortheless. Gasol is a sure-fire Hall of Famer with what he has done int he international game. Bynum is the only suspect name there.
Oh that's easy to name a team, Jerry West had two, Bird has 3. Magic had 4. And so on and so forth.
Or again, lets all boil down to statistics. Oops, at all stats, Jordan wins over Bryant.
You are a perfect example of someone that has no idea what you are talking about. And that's why even if I like the Lakers, its fanboys like you who can't accept the truth and just think Bryant is the best one ever .that gives negative PR to the Lakers. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| ^ best post in this thread!!! |
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| djjoshuaallen |
I wouldnt say bryant is better than MJ, but I dont think its unfair to raise the comparison. The supporting cast is always the first thing to come up, but Pippen was a top 50 player of all time. Rodman was consistantly the rebound leader and defensive player of the year. Chi big men were not completet duds during that time (longly, cartwright, etc.), and lets not forget all the other great role players like steve kerr, john paxton, ron harper, etc. So that excuse doesnt hold up well. If you want to look solely at the stats to draw a conclusion, thats fine. But the game has changed alot, so its difficult to look at stats across generations comparitively. The league overall has become much more athletic and bigger/stronger than it was 20 years ago. The reason the comparions are so frequently made is because Kobe is the closest we have seen to obtain a skill level on par with michael since, mj himself.
If bynum can get his act together and dominate as he should, the lakers could go all the way. This is bynum's time to lead the team, and without him stepping up and dominating we have no chance against OKC, SA, or Miami. I am skeptical that he will step up though, he hasnt shown me the ability to do so on a consistant basis since he has come into the league. |
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| fantasyexctasy |
| Whoa buddy when did i say Kobe was better than Jordan? All I'm saying is he is overrated and given more credit than he deserves. Nobody mentions how Jordan couldn't beat Orlando or that Houston would have stream rolled them both years if Jordan had played them. Wilt and Magic are the best players of all time, followed by Bill Russel and then Jordan. |
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
I wouldnt say bryant is better than MJ, but I dont think its unfair to raise the comparison. The supporting cast is always the first thing to come up, but Pippen was a top 50 player of all time. Rodman was consistantly the rebound leader and defensive player of the year. Chi big men were not completet duds during that time (longly, cartwright, etc.), and lets not forget all the other great role players like steve kerr, john paxton, ron harper, etc. So that excuse doesnt hold up well. If you want to look solely at the stats to draw a conclusion, thats fine. But the game has changed alot, so its difficult to look at stats across generations comparitively. The league overall has become much more athletic and bigger/stronger than it was 20 years ago. The reason the comparions are so frequently made is because Kobe is the closest we have seen to obtain a skill level on par with michael since, mj himself.
If bynum can get his act together and dominate as he should, the lakers could go all the way. This is bynum's time to lead the team, and without him stepping up and dominating we have no chance against OKC, SA, or Miami. I am skeptical that he will step up though, he hasnt shown me the ability to do so on a consistant basis since he has come into the league. |
lets compare then. will you take scottie pippen over shaq in a draft class? (honestly, I would take Shaq over anyone except Jordan).
will you take rodman (approx 3 points and 13 rebound ave since I dont want to google) over gasol (14 points and 9 rebound ave guess)?
i will post that chicago's big men were indeed duds.they were there to fill a position.
i will also say that Lakers has always had a better supporting cast during Kobe's time. Steve Kerr and Paxson were shooters, thats it. ROn Harper was a clipper with a knee problem, who eventually played in LA with Kobe.
also you say, "The league overall has become much more athletic and bigger/stronger than it was 20 years ago". this is not true actually. there were more 7 Footers playing the game during the 90's than today. The average height of the player has actually shrunk. and also, its easier to score nowadays with the league instituting a lot of rules to make the game look good on TV and making it harder to defend (since the lowest ratings of the past 30 years was when defense was best). and again, years ago, it was no blood, no foul. nowadays, its sweat on someone else, its a foul. phil jackson, who was kobe's coach at the time even said, "with these rules, jordan would break 100 easily".
At any point of time during their 6 rings, Jordan was the best player in the game. During Kobe's run of 5 rings, the best player in the game was Shaq for 3 years and Kobe was the best player for 2 years.
I will give you, Kobe's will and competitiveness is closest to Jordan for this generation, that is why they are compared. But stats for 2fg, 3fg, rebunds, assists, steals, scoring average show jordan is too far away as a player compared to kobe. |
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| alan |
| quote: | Originally posted by fantasyexctasy
Whoa buddy when did i say Kobe was better than Jordan? All I'm saying is he is overrated and given more credit than he deserves. Nobody mentions how Jordan couldn't beat Orlando or that Houston would have stream rolled them both years if Jordan had played them. Wilt and Magic are the best players of all time, followed by Bill Russel and then Jordan. |
im confused, when couldnt Jordan defeat Orlando? When it was the first half year he came back from retirement after his dad died and had no legs under him?
He did lead the team to a 72 record in his first full season back after that.
OR do you mean when he came back when he was 45 years old and still averaged 17 points a game?
And Houston did play Jordan when he came back, and they promptly lost. Why is that?
Wasn't it Magic or Bird who said Jordan is the best player of all time and is a god in shorts? Yes, Magic AND Bird saved the NBA (not Jordan), but no, as a player, he Jordan is the best.
I'm sorry, but Bill Russel as he is a winner, I will concur at par or even better than Jordan, since wins are the ultimate factor to me. Wilt couldnt even win one championship over Russell and you say he is better?
Since you may say, Im just reacting and not putting myself out there, here's in my opinion, the top 5 of all time for the NBA (since Kareem to me dominates #1 for college ball) based on who I would draft right now if they were technically coming out of college.
1 and 1a)Bill Russell and Jordan
2a and 2b) Magic and Bird
3) Oscar Robertson
4) Kareem
5) Shaq |
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