have you tried working in like 24/192 or something so that the placebo kicks in
Looney4Clooney
i think the issue is balance. Certain elements take too much space and as a result of trying to make everything big, everything sounds medium pimp.
dj_alfi
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Originally posted by wayfinder
have you tried working in like 24/192 or something so that the placebo kicks in
care to elaborate?:)
tehlord
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i think the issue is balance. Certain elements take too much space and as a result of trying to make everything big, everything sounds medium pimp.
I think you might be right
I'm still going to blame my rubbish monitoring setup for now, and then when I upgrade it I can either laugh out loud or beat myself and my stupid decrepit ears.
And then switch over to ambient fully.
Beatflux
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Originally posted by tehlord
I think you might be right
I'm still going to blame my rubbish monitoring setup for now, and then when I upgrade it I can either laugh out loud or beat myself and my stupid decrepit ears.
And then switch over to ambient fully.
I can hear the difference on laptop speakers...
tehlord
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Originally posted by Beatflux
I can hear the difference on laptop speakers...
That's because you're so very special.
cryophonik
I listened to these on my work computer's speakers yesterday and again just now and they sound fine - I'd say that they compare pretty favorably to commercial tracks. But of course, I'm not in the best listening environment and I can't really crank it up here to give it a proper listen. I meant to give it a listen at home last night, but forgot. I'll try to remember to listen when I get home this evening.
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Originally posted by MSZ
Do you know anyone with any monitor devices that have sharp highs?(maybe you can give them a go) I heard the Adams excel in this. Sharp headphones also can work. The akg 271 are not sharp up there, where as the 141(mk1) are. I find it helps a lot.
That would probably give the opposite effect. By accentuating the highs, he would be more apt to EQ them down, which means that it would sound more muted on other systems. I'm wondering if that's not actually the problem that tehlord is experiencing - maybe his current system/environment are hyping the highs, causing him to EQ them out, resulting in a less crispy mix???
Geoff - could it be that you have too many parts clashing in the upper spectrum, and you're over-compensating by EQing all of it out (e.g., at the bus level), rather than doing it track-by-track? It's easy to hear that in the lower range and carve out notches to prevent buildups in the low/low-mid frequencies, but more difficult to hear that effect in the upper ranges (well, for me, at least). Just a thought.
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Originally posted by tehlord
You're really not very good at trolling.
It requires timing, wit and at least some intelligence. You have none of the important ingredients.
Shush now, and move on.
:stongue:
Beatflux
You're making older trance, its not suppose to sound bright and in your face.
tehlord
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Originally posted by Beatflux
You're making older trance, its not suppose to sound bright and in your face.
John O'Callaghan disagrees.
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Originally posted by cryophonik
I listened to these on my work computer's speakers yesterday and again just now and they sound fine - I'd say that they compare pretty favorably to commercial tracks. But of course, I'm not in the best listening environment and I can't really crank it up here to give it a proper listen. I meant to give it a listen at home last night, but forgot. I'll try to remember to listen when I get home this evening.
That would probably give the opposite effect. By accentuating the highs, he would be more apt to EQ them down, which means that it would sound more muted on other systems. I'm wondering if that's not actually the problem that tehlord is experiencing - maybe his current system/environment are hyping the highs, causing him to EQ them out, resulting in a less crispy mix???
Geoff - could it be that you have too many parts clashing in the upper spectrum, and you're over-compensating by EQing all of it out (e.g., at the bus level), rather than doing it track-by-track? It's easy to hear that in the lower range and carve out notches to prevent buildups in the low/low-mid frequencies, but more difficult to hear that effect in the upper ranges (well, for me, at least). Just a thought.
I think it does compare pretty favourably to some commercial stuff, and probably would even more with a good professional master, but there's still something missing.
I think you're right about not wanting more top end in my monitoring setup, but I do definitely want more detail.
I am starting to suspect I might be pushing things too much in the mid highs so there might be some work I can do there in the future.
That kind of goes back to this ridiculous room issue I know i've got and the fact I'm probably not hearing what I want to hear until I have headphones on, or not enough of it anyway. I literally cannot wait for a dedicated and treated room!
Vector A
It sounds fine to me. How much more high end can you need?
Can you give an example of a track that you think has the appropriate amount?
tehlord
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Originally posted by Vector A
It sounds fine to me. How much more high end can you need?
Can you give an example of a track that you think has the appropriate amount?
It's not so much the level as the balance and placement.
This is a good example of a track that does this kind of sound a lot better, although you could apply the issue I feel I have with my mixes to any of the genres I create.
Lolo
Your main issue here isn't the lack of hi end. It's the frequency clash between all the elements. We all had to deal with this to some extent. Quite annoying. Your ears might need rest too. And more comparison.
Now... if you want a good swiss army knife for mixing needs, I can recommend you nomad factory's magma.
It's not the best plug-in in the world and it's still a bit buggy on the mac in logic, BUT it sounds good. And you get harmonic enhancers, tape emulators, and great eq-'s for about 179$.
