I actually thought about this once and then proceeded to find out. The waitress continued to grate the cheese for quite sometime. My watch demonstrated that it was about 2 minutes. At this point she began to get impatient and said "Sir, is that enough?" I then responded: I don't recall telling you to stop."
She gave me the nastiest look and actually proceeded to grate the cheese further. Another 30 seconds passed and she stopped and said "Sir, I'm going to go get the manager."
The manager came over and asked me if there was a problem. I responded "Yes, I prefer to eat my meals with a lot of grated cheese. Your server told me to stop her when I was satisfied, I was not satisfied, therefore I did not tell her to stop. She then became irritated and impatient."
He then said "Sir, we do have a limit on the amount of cheese customers may have grated onto their meal by the server."
"Bull." I replied. I don't see that stated anywhere on your menus, or other ads, nor was I informed of this before your server proceeded to grate my cheese.
The manager then became impatient and said "Sir, I'm sorry, those are the rules."
I then stood up, made a scene like a lunatic about cheese grating.
The manager then told me "Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave."
" you, do you secretly have a limit on your soup, salad and breaksticks too ? False advertising mother ******, amirite?
The entire room started clapping. The manager huffed and puffed while the waitress dialed 911. When the police arrived, I informed them of my position. The officer then spoke with the manager. The police officer told me that it was best if I left, but that he understood my frustration and told me it was in my best interest to not return to this particular Olive Garden again if I couldn't accept their policy.
As I left, I turned towards the manager and server and said "I'll be back you s, start submitting resumes bitches, you're about to become unemployed."
I filed a claim in court against The Olive Garden, setting precedent regarding false advertising. The court ruled in my favor that the OG failed to inform me that the grating of the cheese had a limitation.
I was awarded 420,844,298,240,293,437,239 dollars, then bought that specific restaurant, fired the entire staff, and then leveled the building. A new building was erected, which now caters to the gay community, selling sex toys, including, but not limited to, rings, penis pumps, and gaping anal inserts.
Joss Weatherby
Agree, most people that use Ableton and other live software often seem like they are doing nothing special.
SYSTEM-J
Shouldn't this be in MD?
Anyway, I think there has definitely been a decline in DJing, but I don't think that laptops and auto-synchs are to blame. There is simply a different emphasis now. The collapse of record sales in the last ten years has left "live" slots as the only reliable way to make money, so artists who would normally stay in the studio are going out to play DJ sets, even though they are not DJs by trade. The explosion of popularity in the US in the last year or two has also left dance music with a huge new demographic who basically still expect the conventions of the pop world - spectacle-filled live shows, as opposed to a head bobbing in a DJ booth for five hours. The two factors combined have diluted mass appreciation and understanding of what a good DJ does. In the '90s, the biggest and most popular DJs around were, for the most part, the genuine article. There are few pure bred DJs rising to real prominence to replace them.
meriter
There certainly aren't any technical limitations anymore, so that's not an excuse. Depending on how you structure your track in ableton you can change up the arrangement and alter any parameter of any sound (or groups of sounds) in a live setting really easily. Only thing is the notes being played out of the sequencer... but as far as the arrangement and sound manipulation there are no barriers. I understand for the festival acts you need to stay on the timeline for the SMPTE sync but there is still no reason other than it being "safe" to not it up in the meantime. With that said there are plenty of people pulling off live sets in ableton where it's the same music but different presentation every night. Still pretty boring to watch though.
EDIT: it's too bad the entire "we all hit play" thread was deleted, there was some good discussion in there before the trainwreck
Looney4Clooney
do you judge the process or the output.
I think this is just people that already hate djs finding a reason to validate their hate. Oh they just push buttons. I think there are alot of reasons to not really respect what most djs do but i would not say the medium is the reason. But the idea of pushing buttons is easy to link with monkey like processes and i guess it works well in articles designed for people that doesn't really understand anything about it.
A piano key is alot like a button. Rubenstein was a very apt button pusher.
Adam420
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
There are few pure bred DJs rising to real prominence to replace them.
I disagree. I think this is more a case of there no longer being an environment where purebred DJs are able to rise to prominence, i.e. you're expected to be a producer to be taken seriously. The idea was always that you would start out as a DJ and eventually move on to make records. Now the expectation is that you make records if you hope to be a DJ. So sad since it's so obvious that being a producer does not = being a good DJ and it's really nothing more than simple logic that dictates that yet there is still an insistence on satisfying some kind of mainstream-derived need for the performer to also be an artist (yet nothing about when it's the other way around).
meriter
This is my friend Dreamlogicc who does a real for real live p.a. (no laptop, all hardware) I wish more people would put something like this together it's definitely more interesting to watch
Dude actually just landed a spot on juno's bestseller charts (leftfield), few spots under pepe bradock, even
Originally posted by ziptnf
I actually thought about this once and then proceeded to find out. The waitress continued to grate the cheese for quite sometime. My watch demonstrated that it was about 2 minutes. At this point she began to get impatient and said "Sir, is that enough?" I then responded: I don't recall telling you to stop."
She gave me the nastiest look and actually proceeded to grate the cheese further. Another 30 seconds passed and she stopped and said "Sir, I'm going to go get the manager."
The manager came over and asked me if there was a problem. I responded "Yes, I prefer to eat my meals with a lot of grated cheese. Your server told me to stop her when I was satisfied, I was not satisfied, therefore I did not tell her to stop. She then became irritated and impatient."
He then said "Sir, we do have a limit on the amount of cheese customers may have grated onto their meal by the server."
"Bull." I replied. I don't see that stated anywhere on your menus, or other ads, nor was I informed of this before your server proceeded to grate my cheese.
The manager then became impatient and said "Sir, I'm sorry, those are the rules."
I then stood up, made a scene like a lunatic about cheese grating.
The manager then told me "Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to leave."
" you, do you secretly have a limit on your soup, salad and breaksticks too ? False advertising mother ******, amirite?
The entire room started clapping. The manager huffed and puffed while the waitress dialed 911. When the police arrived, I informed them of my position. The officer then spoke with the manager. The police officer told me that it was best if I left, but that he understood my frustration and told me it was in my best interest to not return to this particular Olive Garden again if I couldn't accept their policy.
As I left, I turned towards the manager and server and said "I'll be back you s, start submitting resumes bitches, you're about to become unemployed."
I filed a claim in court against The Olive Garden, setting precedent regarding false advertising. The court ruled in my favor that the OG failed to inform me that the grating of the cheese had a limitation.
I was awarded 420,844,298,240,293,437,239 dollars, then bought that specific restaurant, fired the entire staff, and then leveled the building. A new building was erected, which now caters to the gay community, selling sex toys, including, but not limited to, rings, penis pumps, and gaping anal inserts.
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: i didn't read the article this was hillarious enough
SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
I disagree. I think this is more a case of there no longer being an environment where purebred DJs are able to rise to prominence
Is there any difference?
Adam420
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Is there any difference?
Yes, your statement can be interpreted as meaning that there aren't any purebred DJs out there who are skilful or innovative enough to rise to prominence.
SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
Yes, your statement can be interpreted as meaning that there aren't any purebred DJs out there who are skilful or innovative enough to rise to prominence.
I'd like to think I made it clear that it has nothing to do with skill or innovation, and more to do with changing audience expectations and surrounding culture.
