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NI Kontrol Z2 Hybrid Mixer + Traktor 2.6 Features (pg. 3)
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
What the hell are you talking about? Are you ing drunk or just posting in the wrong thread+ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i would of assumed the drivers and overall perfomance just kinda ty. I would of assumed an interface with at least 2 stereo outs going to some mixing source that can also input a safe guard like say your emergency track on a cdj if hits the fan. |
L4C's general soundcard remarks........ |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
Awwwww is this your first time using a controller?  |
No lol |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
L4C's general soundcard remarks........ |
yeah.. why are you talking about pioneer in a thread about a NI mixer?
And 90% is utter bull.
The mixer isn't a soundcard. It has a soundcard built into it. Big ing difference.
The BS about CDJ's being soundcard is just inane.
Which leads me to my original question;
Are you ing drunk or posting in the wrong thread?
Because NONE of what you said was relevant to the post above yours, or L4C's.
Also, it's customary to quote the person you're replying to.
Have you never been on the internet before? |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
No lol |
You're such a ty liar.
It's abundantly clear from your post that you've never used Traktor with a midi controller before.
Welcome to the club, even though you're half a decade too late. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
the DJM IS the soundcard
or your CDJ's are the soundcard, (streaming traktor through the CDJ's)
all connect with USB to laptop, Pioneer ASIO drivers are very good and stable
on top of that full HID support
no need to use external or laptop soundcard at all |
you mean the NI mixer ?
I have an S2 which i've used granted for about 3 hours and it is just awful. I'm assuming it has the same drivers and protocols as the S4. I've just never really thought of NI as a company that made interfaces.
And i was using 2 laptops so that i could send traktor to ableton in a less sketchy way than using rewire. Each deck had its own chain so that I could dj my brothers wedding as drunk as I needed to be. Warped the tracks to so it was completely idiot proof. I mean there was no way i could up any gains or other things you do when drunk. Not that i would do this if i was a regular dj but this was a one time thing and it wasn't like I was going to practice for it. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
you mean the NI mixer ?
I have an S2 which i've used granted for about 3 hours and it is just awful. I'm assuming it has the same drivers and protocols as the S4. I've just never really thought of NI as a company that made interfaces.
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What's awful about the S2? I bet you noobed the settings :P
And they DO make interfaces. For DJ'ing. Not for music production.
And you can't compare a dj audio interface by music production audio interface standards. It would be like slagging off inhouse plumbing for not being built well enough to transport crude oil.
Sure they're both pipes, but they're pipes built for very different purposes. |
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| itsamemario |
| And the fact that I used inhouse plumbing as an analogy for dj interfaces, was in no way meant to suggest that dj interfaces was only built for crap. :p |
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| Looney4Clooney |
nope. It had bad latency, sounded like , would do weird things if you had anything else running. And you can compare them. They do the exact same ing thing. The thing is buggy as a controller, i wouldn't ing trust it on the audio side.
I think it was pre 2.5 Can't remember. Was like Septembre 2011.
I don't noob things. If i use something, i know everything about it. I'm sort of OCD that way. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
nope. It had bad latency, sounded like , would do weird things if you had anything else running. And you can compare them. They do the exact same ing thing. |
No, they don't. A 'studio soundcard' is built to handle a hell of a lot more than the dj interfaces are. Point in case; you can use a studio interface as a dj interface, but not the other way around.
Period.
And if it had bad latency, you most certainly NOOBED the up the settings :P You noob. When setting the buffer settings on the S2 you have to forget everything you know from pro soundcards. Like for instance, setting it to 44 100 hz would result in less latency than if you used 48khz, right? Not here. You just gotta try out a few different settings, seeing what works best for your computer, at least if you go with what I've gathered through different dj forums.
And why the hell are you trying to run Traktor with anything else running in the background? It's a wellknown fact that the timestretching algorithm traktor uses eats up resources.
Edit: As db'y as my comment may have come off, I'd stil really like to know how you felt it sounded like compared to other interfaces you've tried Traktor with/on. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
You're such a ty liar.
It's abundantly clear from your post that you've never used Traktor with a midi controller before.
Welcome to the club, even though you're half a decade too late. |
I don't have to take this from you. obviously i used an m-audio controller before and i even posted about me using over 2 years ago. I also don't need your invitation to any club. Just because you posted about this mixer first doesn't mean you know all about it. For s sake you dont even own one yet, so get your facts straight newb. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
No, they don't. A 'studio soundcard' is built to handle a hell of a lot more than the dj interfaces are. Point in case; you can use a studio interface as a dj interface, but not the other way around.
Period.
And if it had bad latency, you most certainly NOOBED the up the settings :P You noob. When setting the buffer settings on the S2 you have to forget everything you know from pro soundcards. Like for instance, setting it to 44 100 hz would result in less latency than if you used 48khz, right? Not here. You just gotta try out a few different settings, seeing what works best for your computer, at least if you go with what I've gathered through different dj forums.
And why the hell are you trying to run Traktor with anything else running in the background? It's a wellknown fact that the timestretching algorithm traktor uses eats up resources.
Edit: As db'y as my comment may have come off, I'd stil really like to know how you felt it sounded like compared to other interfaces you've tried Traktor with/on. |
lol ok were do i start.
- an audio interfaces takes 1s and 0s, and turns them into an analogous signal. Full stop. Dj interfaces tend to skimp on many things as A, they don't require any ins , and only have 2 audio channels are a low sample rate. There is reason a dedicated device say an UCX for 1500 does audio in and out better faster than a ing device by NI. I had nothing installed on the install ( 2011 mqcpro 2 x SSD drive , 16 gigs of ram) other than a legit copy of traktor, ableton, the drivers for the S2 which i ended up not using because the midi protocol was more stable. The audio had pops and clicks here and there, the latency wasn't great, the sound was ty and you can't do any routing. A noob might be ok with how bad of an interface it is.
- no, higher sample rate in any interface = lower latency. Full stop.
-Why use other thing other than traktor ? Well , to a noob i suppose the use of ableton via rewire probably isn't something you will ever have to deal with as your major concern is mapping the sync button. I'm also guessing you have no ing idea what osc is and why someone would be using say osculator.
get your straight before calling others "noob" . Kinda sad that an ex dj ( its been what, 8 years since i would of called myself an active dj or even touched a system other than my brothers wedding because he asked me and I know more about everything audio than anyone he could afford so it made sense regarding the PA setup and the actual djing ) seems to run circles around you regarding new technology and how they provide ways to dj in new ways. Granted i'm not a ing tosser.
jesus titty christ. |
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| Juan Paulino |
Wow, ralphy likes to get on people's nerves.
Here's a true dj setup. No puney thin skinny cdj sound over here lol.
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