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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
She's fat enough that she definitely should be at least a little bit ashamed. Why do fat people always jump to the "We aren't all supermodels!" defense? Nobody is asking you to be ffs. But it definitely is not healthy to be as overweight as she is - and people shouldn't think it's acceptable. It has nothing to do with body image and people need to stop playing that card. |
So do you routinely mock people who drink, smoke, take drugs, eat too much salt, don't get enough sleep or skip breakfast? Someone's health is their own domain and their own concern, it's as "acceptable" as they feel with themselves. Really, you don't give a about her health. You make fun of fat people exactly for their appearance. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
Yeah, it's quite a double standard, and a standard basically without metric, at that.
But come now, in the vein of Mitch Hedburg, obesity is one of those diseases that people can chastise you for! Like alcoholism, it's the symptom of habits, and merely feeds (lolol) that behaviour.
Also, laughter is an excellent coping mechanism, so technically those of us who choose to deride such things are inspiring the healthy option from within our stations. Where are our prime time monologues? EXACTLY! We're JUST TOO HUMBLE. Fat people steal all the limelight because they think it might be carbonated. Mmmm. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
Dammit, Google. :mad:
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| In addition, this woman is in fact Ron Livingston's sister. So, yeah, I'm going say in a given week she probably does about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work. |
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| Zharen |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So do you routinely mock people who drink, smoke, take drugs, eat too much salt, don't get enough sleep or skip breakfast? Someone's health is their own domain and their own concern, it's as "acceptable" as they feel with themselves. Really, you don't give a about her health. You make fun of fat people exactly for their appearance. |
This response does hold some weight. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zharen
This response does hold some weight. |
But is it enough to mock with a derisive sense of superiority or can it only sustain a smug indifference? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So do you routinely mock people who drink, smoke, take drugs, eat too much salt, don't get enough sleep or skip breakfast? Someone's health is their own domain and their own concern, it's as "acceptable" as they feel with themselves. Really, you don't give a about her health. You make fun of fat people exactly for their appearance. |
i find fat people being so visible easily encapsulate much of what i consider wrong with America and I suppose the world and it is just easy or perhaps i should say hard to not judge.
I'm aware of my prejudice and try to convince myself that it is an eating disorder and should be treated like a drug addiction or other mental ailment which I suppose one could also attribute to me. But as much as I try to rationalize it, I can't shake the fact that so many are overweight in such a short time period that this is not some DSM related pandemic but rather the results of a lifestyle I consider vile , wasteful and immoral.
Now you can't blame kids but when you look at the discussion surrounding this epidemic it just adds fuel to the fire. You don't have to search long to find idiot pundit americans fighting for their right to be a fat with no apology like it is a lifestyle and part of what it is to be american. So you have those idiots whining about health initiatives that are apparently a slippery slope that will lead to socialism. They don't seem to mind that kids meals at school are subsidized by the government but they sure as hell won't have the government telling them what they can eat. And how they made an issue over Michelle's healthy eating campaign. Nobody seems to mind that childhood obesity in the US has tripled since the 80s. Then you have the politicians that won't spend on parks, bike trails and ways to stay in shape. Subsidies for corn but no access for the poor which right now seems to be the entire country to affordable healthy food.
They don't seem to realize their right to be fat costs tax payers about 100 billion a year. They get offended when they are told they are obese by a doctor. My sister had to deal with this more times than she can recall while doing her residency. Granted it was Canada which is pretty ing close to USA numbers but she found it incredulous how people considered a medical condition ie morbidly obese as an insult. They did almost every time. They think being fat is ok. It is a lifestyle. Like being gay or black. I didn't chose this. Those chicken wings chose me. They take up more room on a plane but pay the same. They smell. They are aesthetically unpleasant making the overall landscape ugly most of them adding no effort to make up for their transgressions by being a little more jovial. The kind of fat person USA used to stand for. And when you live in a city where trees are sparse, people count.
So ya, believe me , I try to not roll my eyes even if it is an internal virtual eye roll but no matter how much i try to sympathize, I can't. But that doesn't mean i actively try to make them feel bad. I mean when you take that first year law course when you go thru those what if scenarios. I'm sure you've all had it asked at one point. Train, pull the switch , only kill 1 person, don't kill 3. My answer would be impacted by how much they weigh.
ultimately i fear them. Dante left out the last level of hell. 30 000 feet above the atlantic getting bumped to coach sitting next to a pungent fat female who insists on having the window seat. She is from a town of 5000, she runs the local tea party chapter and has all the Ayn Rand canon but the abridged audiobook versions on her portable dvd player because a laptop would not accommodate her fingers. |
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| Lagrangian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Yeah, it's quite a double standard, and a standard basically without metric, at that.
But come now, in the vein of Mitch Hedburg, obesity is one of those diseases that people can chastise you for! Like alcoholism, it's the symptom of habits, and merely feeds (lolol) that behaviour.
Also, laughter is an excellent coping mechanism, so technically those of us who choose to deride such things are inspiring the healthy option from within our stations. Where are our prime time monologues? EXACTLY! We're JUST TOO HUMBLE. Fat people steal all the limelight because they think it might be carbonated. Mmmm. |
Some obesity is linked to gene composition
1/2 a point. decent effort, 'if that'. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
weird
south park episode this week deals with fat people. After i wrote that, i got to laugh even more. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
She's fat enough that she definitely should be at least a little bit ashamed. Why do fat people always jump to the "We aren't all supermodels!" defense? Nobody is asking you to be ffs. But it definitely is not healthy to be as overweight as she is - and people shouldn't think it's acceptable. It has nothing to do with body image and people need to stop playing that card. |
why don't you talk to fatties about The Thinning Crystal? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So do you routinely mock people who drink, smoke, take drugs, eat too much salt, don't get enough sleep or skip breakfast? Someone's health is their own domain and their own concern, it's as "acceptable" as they feel with themselves. Really, you don't give a about her health. You make fun of fat people exactly for their appearance. |
No, what I'm saying is that fat people always pull the body image card to detract from the fact that yeah, it's a health issue and they have ownership of their health. Fat people more than any other people with health issues shirk responsibility for it and play victim. Most people I've encountered in my career that are sick due to their lifestyle choices typically express some shame and acknowledge/accept how their choices have contributed to their illnesses. But not fat people! Nope, it's always "I can't help that I'm big boned!" "Well I'm not a supermodel!" etc., etc. |
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