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I'd like to talk about trap music.
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| Evolve140 |
So, from what I can tell, it's for kids in high school (or just out of high school) who haven't been around long enough to appreciate proper house music. Rhihanna, Kanye West, SHM remixes, is this total crap or what? Am I missing something? Is there some kind of redeeming value in trap that I'm not seeing here?
I bring this up because there seems to be a separation of scene where I live. Those who want to listen to hip, trendy party music like trap, and those who have been into house for a while and enjoy a proper experience, not just obscene drunkenness and fist pumping.
And, for the sake of keeping this in the production forum, is there any sort of redeeming feature or value about this music I am missing, production wise? Is there anything ground breaking or just plain or awesome that I'm missing? |
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| aquila |
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| tehlord |
It's made for American kids fist pumping at gigs who know no better.
Sadly the rest of the world will follow (and already are) because the Americans shout so loud. |
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| Deillon |
| I'm pretty sure someone of your current age would say the same about your favourite music when you were in high school. |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by Evolve140
Rhihanna, Kanye West, SHM remixes, is this total crap or what? Am I missing something?
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Ok we had a few neighbours round the other night.
If I put some decent dance tracks on, the sort of stuff us guys would like, they just couldn't engage with it, it wasn't accesible to them in this casual 'lets have a few beers' setting. Try this yourself with non dance heads.
Instead they preferred stuff like 'Move like Jagger' and all the other mainstream hits.
We discussed this and they said the stuff I like only works in a club, or sometimes in a car.
They then put on a Wii dance game, and it was all the mainstream hits, but sometimes I think we're in danger here of under estimating just how hard it is to come up with melodies and words thast work in the way your average joe can instantly engage with.
As I said in that thread I did a while back, if it's easy, lets one of us here produce one of these tracks and demonstrate how simple it is............ |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by Deillon
I'm pretty sure someone of your current age would say the same about your favourite music when you were in high school. |
Argument fail
I like loads of contemporary dance music, just not this .
I also know literally dozens of the younger generation who think it's as well. |
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| Deillon |
| Fact is it's still popular. (bauuer is going to make it worse) |
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| Allied Nations |
| if you listen to trance you arent allowed to make fun of trap |
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| Looney4Clooney |
not sure what it has to do with house music. It is dirty south which was in my opinion but more 808. People were into dirty south -> don't see why they would not be into this. I don't see any parallel with EDM other than using more synthetic sound sources which isn't new in rap.
my problem with trap music is that it is pretty much the old stuff, take away the groove if there is anything left, add really fast hihats and voila. Not sure if it is the fast hihats that aimpress people.
Anyways, i thought Katy Perry's last album was great, i know the lyrics to Gomez' love song, so you can't say this is an age thing, It is indeed music that doesn't touch me in way that would show merit in the music. As to why people like it, could be lots of reasons but there is not one person that could make a claim that it has any musical merit what so ever. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Deillon
Fact is it's still popular. (bauuer is going to make it worse) |
DO THE HARLEM SHAKE |
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| DJRYAN™ |
| Trap is huge here in Atlanta but its mostly used to supplement dubstep and breakbeat sets. All Trap sets aren't allowed in a couple of the venues because of the crowd it attracts. At least that's what the memo said. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| because it is instrumental hip rap. There is no connection between dubstep and trap. Trap is what you get when you take the tiest form of rap, dirty south, and take away the vocalist essentially riding the music of any merit what so ever. It is a sort of explicit push against the good music movement. The art is in how bad you can make it sound. It is also a social statement regarding blacks and their inability to use technology. |
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