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| Rodri Santos |
only thing i find having a good twitter/facebook/SC following background (apart from bragging about it which should guarantee you bitches) is to support a good career. I mean your music is good, you are a good dj but you have only 500 facebook likes so promoters are a bit unsure of the potential you will have to fill the venue if instead they see 5,000 that is more impressive.
Best way to promote yourself is through Youtube but not buy uploading your own tracks:
-Imagine you just created Fart Fest (Original Mix) pure out of your ass but you make a funny/pathetic videoclip like Gangnamstyle people would come to see that and then goes viral.
-Second scenario is that someone with loads of followers uses your music in their videos, some trance uploaders have 10k followers you can try sharing with them your tune and see if they decide to put it on their channel but i am thinking on a bigger scale. People who upload their games of Call of Duty world of warcraft etc.... and have 500k followers or millions. I remember a guild of wow used Alex Morph - Walk The Edge in a video of the very last monster on that expansion set, got millions of views , that tune scored top 3 of the year and catapulted Morph's career. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
only thing i find having a good twitter/facebook/SC following background (apart from bragging about it which should guarantee you bitches) is to support a good career. I mean your music is good, you are a good dj but you have only 500 facebook likes so promoters are a bit unsure of the potential you will have to fill the venue if instead they see 5,000 that is more impressive. |
You wouldn't believe how big of a deal this is, even for top 100 dj's. Things I've heard over time... Buying followers/likes to secure sponsorship deals or to fake promotion targets. It is quite common. I'm not sure how much of this is still going on after exposing bought likes on a lot of top100 DJ's, but I bet there's still plenty of it going around. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Best way to promote yourself is through Youtube but not buy uploading your own tracks:
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you should alway upload your stuff to youtube. Someone else will. Why waste an opportunity to bring people to your page. If you are an artist and you do not have your stuff available on youtube, you need new management.
Same goes with piracy. You leak your own material so you have control. You can leak a version with a watermark or something that you can tell like an extra drum hit. If you are worth listening to, you will be pirated. There is nothing you can do about it. But you can control what is distributed.
So many people are stuck in 1990. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
So many people are stuck in 1990. |
Heeeeeey! :confused: |
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| Storyteller |
| It was either that or born in the 90s :rolleyes: |
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| Rodri Santos |
| maybe i expressed it badly i didn't want to say that uploading your stuff is bad, you should upload it but won't be the key to sucess while getting your stuff on someone else's channel... i personally think that uploading bad quality samples to youtube/sc will only lead to people ripping off bad quality music which is negative. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| why would you put bad quality samples ? |
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| Rodri Santos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
why would you put bad quality samples ? |
people do it all the time, they upload unmastered versions, 128kbps samples or less and so on... or stupid watermarks that does not fit the purpose, having a one second of silence every minute is a good way to prevent people using it "profesionally" on radioshows,live sets etc... but people would still rip it off and download it, it's not a big pain but it makes you go angrier, i know the feeling because i once downloaded an album from a metal band that had watermarks like this and the more i listened to it the more i hated the watermarks, ended being hate to the artists. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| by watermark , i meant something nobody would notice but you would know right away. You would know who was playing the legit version and who wasn't. |
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| Storyteller |
| Posting low quality or partial previews has a significant impact on views/impressions. People demand either proper awesome teasers or just full quality complete tracks. Doing anything else (in music) often cripples the impact your promotion could have, especially for small-time artists. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
by watermark , i meant something nobody would notice but you would know right away. You would know who was playing the legit version and who wasn't. |
back in the old days of vinyl pressing, the bootlegs (pirate vinyls) were a big problem. A mate used to be A&R manager for a big garage label. They knew one of the 5 pressing houses they used were knocking them off but couldn't figure out which one.
So they did a small run at each pressing house and made each one of the five masters different, and waited to see which version popped up as an unofficial white label.
Needless to say, owner of said pressing house got a damn good kicking.
Richie is right - someone will leak it or pirate it or torrent it. You might as well control the early distribution yourself.
Adding a 1 sec silence a couple of times in the track is actually the most practical way of protecting against commercial use, at least when a track is first put out - a home listener won't really care but no dj will be able to use it.
As for FB, it's becoming less and less useful for businesses; the fact you have to pay to promote to get any sort of reasonable reach completely destroys it's function. Many people simply won't click on promoted posts and $300 just to reach your fanbase isn't actually that good value as people become more and more saturated and less engaged with FB. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Actually you suggested a great approach last year or before. The pirated version has a crash or effect the legit version does not. Any degredation and someone will upload the legit version. This way, you can know who is playing the pirated version. And if you ever catch a big dj, its blackmail hour. |
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