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| DJRYAN™ |
| If Kraftwerk or other prominent producers were to have an inclination to make the kind of music we listen to today, could they recreate our modern day music using the same technologies they had then? Could they make Dubstep, or some of the hi-octane Trance patches that are prevalent in today's music?? |
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| cryophonik |
| If you're asking if they could make supersaws using vintage synths and drown them in delays and reverbs, or modulate a square oscillator with an LFO, then the answer is yes, of course. Why do you ask? |
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| DJRYAN™ |
| I was just sitting here thinking about time travel and whether or not I could teleport back to the dawn of EDM, knowing what I know now, using their same technology if I could make what we hear today. I thought that if it was possible, how it would change the face of Electronic Dance Music. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJRYAN™
I was just sitting here thinking about time travel and whether or not I could teleport back to the dawn of EDM, knowing what I know now, using their same technology if I could make what we hear today. I thought that if it was possible, how it would change the face of Electronic Dance Music. |
That's a film that is.
Those that work in LA, get this fcuker signed fast before I fly out there and pitch it. |
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| DJRYAN™ |
| I'm serious. What if someone were to go back in time, and modulate a square wave via an LFO and create dubstep back in the 70's. Or, use some of these profoundly superb supersaws we hear today and make trance.. Everyone talks about the "classics" and yes, as good as they were then, they seem simple by today's standards.. So what if we had today's music then? How would that transform the scene and more importantly how would our music sound today knowing that everything we hear now, could've been made then?? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Doubt it. Synths did not have unison,resampling a 10 second clib while splitting the frequency bands and applying a chain of effects that would cripple trevor horns studio. It just was not feasible. Im terms of synthesis kraftwerk were rather simple. Most fx teams working in film would run circles around any synth pop musician. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJRYAN™
I'm serious. What if someone were to go back in time, and modulate a square wave via an LFO and create dubstep back in the 70's. Or, use some of these profoundly superb supersaws we hear today and make trance.. Everyone talks about the "classics" and yes, as good as they were then, they seem simple by today's standards.. So what if we had today's music then? How would that transform the scene and more importantly how would our music sound today knowing that everything we hear now, could've been made then?? |
Hold on a second. My first post was assuming you were talking about new practices in synthesis and sound design. Doctor who has your dubstep wobble the theme song. Dont forget everyone now is standing on the shoulders of giants.
Your question is like asking what would the world be like if the nazis had c130 ground support planes, f22 fighter jets and diet pepsi. |
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| DJRYAN™ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Doubt it. Synths did not have unison,resampling a 10 second clib while splitting the frequency bands and applying a chain of effects that would cripple trevor horns studio. It just was not feasible. Im terms of synthesis kraftwerk were rather simple. Most fx teams working in film would run circles around any synth pop musician. |
ah now this is what I'm getting to.. Did the synths then lack in voices, lfo's, and eq's, reverb's, etc.. to recreate the type of music then?? And by how much?? Certainly anyone who has a Prophet, Mood Modular, MiniMoog, Jupiter8, etc. etc.. can create sounds today that would rival some of the ones created then.. but why?? Because we are familiar with those sounds?? So how did technology limit us from making those sounds then and/or was it because of mental limitations or technological limitations? |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Doubt it. Synths did not have unison,resampling a 10 second clib while splitting the frequency bands and applying a chain of effects that would cripple trevor horns studio. It just was not feasible. |
Sure, not likely, but definitely doable using effects, layering, multi-tracking/panning, etc. Hell, you could recreate most dubstep or trance synth tracks using one vintage analog mono and a couple of stone-age stomp boxes if you wanted to spend the time (and arguably even get better results). Well, maybe YOU couldn't do it, but smart people could. :toothless |
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| DJRYAN™ |
| can I hear the original Dr. Who dubstep wobble?? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Not the stuff by koan, noisia, savant....
The old stuff maybe. But the modern stuff , It was not within the realm of the technology. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJRYAN™
ah now this is what I'm getting to.. Did the synths then lack in voices, lfo's, and eq's, reverb's, etc.. to recreate the type of music then?? And by how much?? Certainly anyone who has a Prophet, Mood Modular, MiniMoog, Jupiter8, etc. etc.. can create sounds today that would rival some of the ones created then.. but why?? Because we are familiar with those sounds?? So how did technology limit us from making those sounds then and/or was it because of mental limitations or technological limitations? |
It all depends on which era you're talking about. If you're talking early 70s, then no, most synths didn't have those features contained in one unit, but as I said above, that wouldn't necessarily stop you from getting the desired results using multiple pieces of gear and some not-so-unusual production techniques. By the mid-80s, one decent polysynth and one cheap Alesis FX unit would give you more than you'd ever need to create today's sounds. Hell, people are doing exactly that with their vintage synths as we speak - that's why the prices on vintage synths are outa control. |
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