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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
2nd post. As in the one below the one you're referring to.
And don't speak on behalf of anyone else when you're clearly in the minority. ing dumbass. |
Raphie has one point of view you have another, but why the anger? This is a discussion platform, we have to confront other views without getting angry.
We should respect honest opinions even if they might undermine our own sense of self.
In the world of film, some directors are using proper wide film and try making do with less CGI, in a sense this has parallels with what Raphie and others talk of. It's not something to critiscise, it's just a different approach and if people feel that approach is more 'real', more genuine, a better reflection of thier artistic integrity, well thats just fine by me.
In fact the film analogy does chime with me because I get sick of cgi effects and often find real filmed action is far more satisfying than a load of dumb assed code inside a machine. Anyway thats another issue. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Richard Butler
Raphie has one point of view you have another, but why the anger? This is a discussion platform, we have to confront other views without getting angry.
We should respect honest opinions even if they might undermine our own sense of self.
In the world of film, some directors are using proper wide film and try making do with less CGI, in a sense this has parallels with what Raphie and others talk of. It's not something to critiscise, it's just a different approach and if people feel that approach is more 'real', more genuine, a better reflection of thier artistic integrity, well thats just fine by me.
In fact the film analogy does chime with me because I get sick of cgi effects and often find real filmed action is far more satisfying than a load of dumb assed code inside a machine. Anyway thats another issue. |
That analogy does not work as it from the get go sets the one above the other.
And where is this supposed anger you're referring to?
Is it because I used a swear word? Stop being ing kids ffs. |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
That analogy does not work as it from the get go sets the one above the other.
And where is this supposed anger you're referring to?
Is it because I used a swear word? Stop being ing kids ffs. |
Now, did i ever mention hierarchy? One is not BETTER than the other, one just resonates differently with me, enjoyment as listener, or fulfilment as artist,which might be the exact opposite for you. And that's fine
There is no hierarchy of skills or integrity. That's different for everyone.
Regarding the anger, you act like a testosteron tween. |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
let's keep it nice, or do you want me to prove my point, with your little lame "i can push an Ableton button too video" ?!? I understand you feel discriminated as a loop pusher, so you should. Now, shall we play nice? Or do you want to go next level, your call.......
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Lol, you gotta be ing retarded. And the fact that you've gone for the pathetic ad hominems thinking that somehow proves your point speaks volumes about your intelligence level.
Go play with your dusty old synths and samplers, little boy. You do not possess the intellect to argue on the internet. |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
Lol, you gotta be ing retarded. And the fact that you've gone for the pathetic ad hominems thinking that somehow proves your point speaks volumes about your intelligence level.
Go play with your dusty old synths and samplers, little boy. You do not possess the intellect to argue on the internet. |
now that's a weak cop out :D
Let me play, i'll let you replay, ok? :D |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
now that's a weak cop out :D
Let me play, i'll let you replay, ok? :D |
What exactly are you trying to say here?
First part of the sentence is okay, but last part is unintelligible.
And when you resort to poorly thought out ad hominem attacks, you're not gonna get a well-written antiphon in return. You get what you give. C'mon dude, they taught you that in kindergarten.
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
Now, did i ever mention hierarchy? One is not BETTER than the other, one just resonates differently with me, enjoyment as listener, or fulfilment as artist,which might be the exact opposite for you. And that's fine |
That would be fine, if it was correct. But that whole Creation/Recycling bull you wrote shows that you have a clear disdain for anyone who doesn't sculpt each and every sound with analog filters and warmth calibrators, or whatever bull technology you've bought into at the time. This attitude in fact permeates your entire rhetoric. And you'll never win an argument when you pretend to be sitting on a cloud above everyone else. Even if you try to deny it later on.
The fact is that apart from a very, veery few tracks, most tracks that are released are more than just a couple of loops thrown together. And your little hate-speech toward loops pretty much alienates you from not only the origin of genre, but also the reason it's still pumping out fresh material 30 years later. If you know where to look, that is. And I doubt you do, given that resplendent analysis of the typical producer you provided a little earlier in the thread. |
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| Raphie |
In order to start a debate, one always aggrevates, exagerates and challenges a bit.
Between those paragraphs i've been crystal clear what i find appealing and hence the way choose to make music.
If you still think that this is about :
- analogue v/s digital
- "real" synths v/s VSTs
- Ableton
Then you still don't get it. It's about creating rather than recycling.
Your content v/s pushing a button and playing that same riser from the library
You programming hihats v/s using those dreaded toolroom/beatport looppacks / machine templates again
It's not as black and white, you can create original beats with one shot samples, Tehlord explained the thin line perfectly.
If you feel you are on the right side then more power to you no need to feel offended
If you keep on lining up prefab loops, push an autosynced button every once and a while nodding the "pretty fly for a white guy" head you are still a stupid monkey.
And i just don't like monkeys & microdj posers
I mean, I like you, but you're having a horrid attitude to noobs, you're foul mouthed and just get gross if you don't get your way. And then above is all to show for. AND you seem to struggle to grasp the bigger picture. But... On better days I do like you...
| quote: | Originally posted by itsamemario
What exactly are you trying to say here?
First part of the sentence is okay, but last part is unintelligible.
And when you resort to poorly thought out ad hominem attacks, you're not gonna get a well-written antiphon in return. You get what you give. C'mon dude, they taught you that in kindergarten.
That would be fine, if it was correct. But that whole Creation/Recycling bull you wrote shows that you have a clear disdain for anyone who doesn't sculpt each and every sound with analog filters and warmth calibrators, or whatever bull technology you've bought into at the time. This attitude in fact permeates your entire rhetoric. And you'll never win an argument when you pretend to be sitting on a cloud above everyone else. Even if you try to deny it later on.
The fact is that apart from a very, veery few tracks, most tracks that are released are more than just a couple of loops thrown together. And your little hate-speech toward loops pretty much alienates you from not only the origin of genre, but also the reason it's still pumping out fresh material 30 years later. If you know where to look, that is. And I doubt you do, given that resplendent analysis of the typical producer you provided a little earlier in the thread. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
And i just don't like monkeys |
Hey :mad: |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
Hey :mad: |
ok li leave the monkey out, the moneky can't help it
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| tehlord |
| At least he's using hardware. |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
At least he's using hardware. |
that's razorsharp :D |
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