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CHINA - Up in arms (pg. 6)
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Taipan
And I love how you have this fool srussell0018 on your side. Completely strengthens your position.
srussell0018
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Originally posted by Taipan
What does HSBC stand for?


That's what you're basing this on? HSBC? You know that's a British company right? Their headquarters is in London you ing troglodyte.

You're making yourself look more ignorant and stupid with every post. You should quit while you're behind.
Nrg2Nfinit
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
last time i checked, china owned about 12%. that isn't "much", nor does it equate to china "owning" the US economy. just simplistic, poorly-understood bollocks from people that read the occasional headline.



8.1% as of last year.


edit: that's a brain fart. I assume that the 30% is just internal bond holdings and issuance. the fed essentially buying bonds (with money it doesnt have QE), forcing the rates to stay low in conjuction with also selling new bonds.
Lira
The US owes us money!? :wtf:
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
I wonder what that 30% of owings is comprised of.


you mean nitty-gritty specifics? does it matter? investors of different ilk i would assume?
Nrg2Nfinit
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you mean nitty-gritty specifics? does it matter? investors of different ilk i would assume?


I edited my brain fart post.. see above
Lews
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
The US owes us money!? :wtf:


To keep the Real down, and thus make Brazilian exports more attractive to keep fueling robust growth, the Brazilian government has been spending a lot of money buying US Debt the last few years.
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
edit: that's a brain fart. I assume that the 30% is just internal bond holdings and issuance. the fed essentially buying bonds (with money it doesnt have QE), forcing the rates to stay low in conjuction with also selling new bonds.


i disagree with this, as it already has a specific label for debt owned by the fed? (10.8%)?

based on the key i would posit that the 30% represents private bond holders and corresponding US institutions who have invested in US bonds (certain other institutions' ownerships being large enough presumably to get their own distinction from this 30%).
Lews
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
based on the key i would posit that the 30% represents private bond holders and corresponding US institutions who have invested in US bonds (certain other institutions' ownerships being large enough presumably to get their own distinction from this 30%).


Yeah, I'm fairly sure it's U.S. individuals, mutual funds, wall-street banks, etc.
Taipan
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
That's what you're basing this on? HSBC? You know that's a British company right? Their headquarters is in London you ing troglodyte.

You're making yourself look more ignorant and stupid with every post. You should quit while you're behind.


http://articles.economictimes.india...ne-shanghai-ftz

Keep talking, kid.

Lews
Yeah, Stephen's stupid, we get it.

Shanghai and Shenzhen are both very big economic cities in their own ways. What does this have to do with people's inaccurate and paranoid fears of a Chinese Century?
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
To keep the Real down, and thus make Brazilian exports more attractive to keep fueling robust growth, the Brazilian government has been spending a lot of money buying US Debt the last few years.

What!? No, this makes the books I buy a lot more expensive :(

So that's why Stephen Colbert mentioned something along these lines some time ago, and I was surprised to hear him say "Brazil" at all. The funny thing is, this has become something of a problem recently because they clearly overshot it and they're now trying to bring the Real up.

By the way, do you guys actually pronounce it as if it were an English word, or do you really say hay-OW?
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