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How Do You Identify The Scale Of Your Track? (pg. 2)
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
By any chance was it done with Massive? Curious. |
Nope :). |
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| clay |
| how bout picking the scale first and then make the melody using notes in that particular scale? rofl |
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| Teezdalien |
| I'd recommend the chordify site, but it's ing useless lol. |
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| future_newbie |
Btw people, do you know of any edm track, in particular trance tunes, which change their key in the middle of the song?
Could you post them and tell me where does it exactly occur? |
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| future_newbie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
:p |
Seriously, what is your problem? If you got anything to say just say it. |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by future_newbie
Seriously, what is your problem? If you got anything to say just say it. |
TA is an old mans club full of trolly fags, but I'll try to help:
The scale, or more often referred to as the "key" of your composition is something that you decide before even touching the keyboard. The scale, most often in trance is the "Minor" scale, and the key is what note you start that scale on. Using A Minor is the easiest scale for trance music. Start there. Try googling some A minor scales and chords.
And, no, trance isn't complex enough to change key in the middle of a song. It's not common in all styles of music, even classical. But it is done. In popular music, most of the time when it is done, it's a cheesy attempt at making interesting again what had already become stale. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| quote: | Originally posted by future_newbie
Seriously, what is your problem? If you got anything to say just say it. |
:D |
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| future_newbie |
| quote: | Originally posted by alanzo
TA is an old mans club full of trolly fags, but I'll try to help:
The scale, or more often referred to as the "key" of your composition is something that you decide before even touching the keyboard. The scale, most often in trance is the "Minor" scale, and the key is what note you start that scale on. Using A Minor is the easiest scale for trance music. Start there. Try googling some A minor scales and chords.
And, no, trance isn't complex enough to change key in the middle of a song. It's not common in all styles of music, even classical. But it is done. In popular music, most of the time when it is done, it's a cheesy attempt at making interesting again what had already become stale. |
But in pop-rock is not that unusual to go from minor to major to enhance the chorus, am I right?
Btw, don't know for what reason I always thought in this track there is a key change at around 2:30....
Tell me if I'm trippin....:) |
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| future_newbie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Juan Paulino
:D |
Believe me, I see you're trying too hard...but you're not original, at all...
It doesn't suits you.
Clooney is the type of guy that could engage such attitude...but you're just pitiful. |
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| alanzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by future_newbie
But in pop-rock is not that unusual to go from minor to major to enhance the chorus, am I right?
Btw, don't know for what reason I always thought in this track there is a key change at around 2:30.... |
Incorrect. I think you're confusing key changes and just building off of the already established root of a song.
Changing the key of a track is done kinda often, and it can build a lot of emotion in a song, but not a trance track. It's just cheesy and stupid when it's done in a trance track. It's not done in electronic music in general.
Pop rock? Yeah, maybe 1/200 songs will do it. It's a very advanced technique, don't waste your time trying. Learn scales first.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6EQnuH6gvQ |
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| Looney4Clooney |
most EDM doesn't have a key. A key is term meant for a type of music called Tonal which inferred a certain hierarchy and organization. You needed a resolution of some sort to establish a key which quite often in dance , you ever get. Even the ubiquitous minor trance progression using V VI and VII can either be seen as IV V vi in a major key which is a deceptive resolution which i guess would establish the key but it would be major. Otherwise you could say it was in a mode rather than a key.
in dance , and i'm only mentioning these terms because you seem to want to understand the music in terms one would use when discussing it in a formal way, you would just say it has a pitch centre. Especially for tracks that don't really have any other chords or melodies.
There are quite a few tracks that will have the main melody based on a different pitch centre. Some rather famous mega tracks from the classic era did this quite often. Don't think tthe producer knew what it was he was doing in any way he could describe with words, it just sounded right. |
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