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What do you think about Yamaha HS series?
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| Tecty |
I know there are a lot of posts about monitors but, is just about few speakers and so isn't very helpful. I wanna ask you what you think about Yamaha HS series, i need to buy monitors and i'm really confused.. i found theese Yamaha and i think they're pretty cool. Most of you in here said that KRK speakers sucks.. and that they're that popular because of the promotors... so i searched for some other spekears that fit in 300-400euros (both). I found theese very cool.
Here, a video : .
I thinked to buy the HS7 which is 195,00 € because are a little bigger than HS5 which costs 166,00 € , so not a big difference in price. I always knew that Yamaha is one of the top company and i don't know if there are people who never heard of Yamaha... but i didn't heard about KRK/Adam and etc before. Anyway any advices? |
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| Tecty |
Is about the Yamaha HS series indeed but not about the HS5/HS7/HS 8
PS : I found that the Yamaha HS50M is also the name of HS5 or i don't know it looks the same.. lol i'm more confused now :|
PS: I see the HS50M and HS80M you can find them very easy by this name but the HS70M you won't find it , you can find it just by the name HS7 ... that's really ed up.
Ok so just visit this : http://www.stars-music.fr/recherche-YAMAHA-HS and.... i see now the HS50M and HS5 are different how i thought... the HS5 is more expensive than HS50M , also i saw alot of comments saying that HS80M is very good, but also the HS8 is more expensive than HS80M , i don't understand the difference.. |
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| echosystm |
I think you should wait for reviews before buying the new ones. Yamaha could be leveraging the goodwill of the HS80s and HS50s to flog products that aren't in the same league. They're probably not doing that, but it is a possibility.
The HS* range are arguably the best budget speakers around. The only issue to be aware of is that they are rear ported. If you're putting HS80s in a small and untreated room, you might as well just buy some $200 hi-fi speakers, because you're going to get +/-6db peaks/nulls throughout the frequency range. It might not sound like much, but remember every 3db is double the perceived loudness; the "flatness" of your $700 monitors goes right out the window. |
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| Tecty |
| No, i just said that i saw some good comments about HS80M but i didn't said i'm gonna buy them.. i had in my mind the HS7. I saw somewhere that they're good speakers for bedroom producers and untreated rooms ( the HS series) . I will love to treat the room at least with some bass traps and something but uh.. if they would be able to re-use , i mean to take it off and use in other room i would do that too ( i saw something like that is possible in that show who a guy come home and take care of artists room treatment , like stickers on walls but not for the bass traps) |
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| DjStephenWiley |
I own the HS80M and will probably never replace them unless I have thousands of dollars to burn. They do exactly what I need, without a subwoofer. Couldn't recommend them more. I believe DJ RANN on here has a pair as well. I bought mine because of the praise I recall him giving them and couldn't be more happy.
If you can get a pair for under $500 you're getting a steal. I paid over $600 for mine but that was several years ago. I think they've come down a bit in price, not sure why. |
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| Juan Paulino |
| Still have the HS80M, use them for djing now. |
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| Tecty |
Something that i found about the differences beetween HS80M and HS8.
Because theese HS5/7/8 are the new serie, the HS50M/HS80M are the old one which doesn't have a 7 version.
| quote: | | Hey guys! First of all, thanks for all your info! This site helped me a lot over the years and I think is time for me to pinch in with some personal opinions. Today the HS8s have arrived in my store and I finally had the chance to listen and compare them with the old series. After a long and in-depth side-by-side testing, I came up with the following conclusions: - the differences are barely noticeable, of course, and I think the HS8s are better sound-wise. They have a round, warmer and more calibrated bass and the highs are not as "spicy" as the HS80s. The mids are basically the same, the reproduction of instruments alone is as good and precise as before. But I noticed something rather strange when I let one HS8 on the left channel and one HS80 on the right channel run without audio signal: the background hiss is still present on the HS8s, but not as much as on the old series. There is also a small ticking noise in the tweeter of the HS8. For me it's a mystery because I connected both the HS8 and the HS80 in the same power outlet and even switched the channels, cables and I still didn't get rid of the noise. I didn't have this noise on any other studio monitors before, not even on Behringers!! I certainly hope that it's a problem with the electrical wiring and not with the HS8 itself or it's power supply and I'll do a test again, when I'll have the time, in a different room and compare the results. - I also have a unpleasant surprise on the back of the HS8: the sound settings now include only room control (0db, -2db and -4db) and high trim (+2db, 0db, -2db). The rest (mid eq and low cut) are gone! So you'll need additional equipments or software if you want to deeply personalize the sound according to your room acoustics. Despite these, the level control, the input connectors (XLR and TRS), the bass port, and radiator are the same, so Yamaha probably used the same type of amps as before. - construction-wise, the HS8 is still rugged as before, it has the same wood casing design and the same overall size as HS80 but there is a small difference in weight: HS8 has 12.5 kb and HS80 has 13.2kg. This difference backs up the theory of redesigned speakers. I don't know if you'll notice but in the rear panel photo you can see through the bass port that the HS8 has a different tweeter. (sorry for the bad quality photos btw). - the prices are almost the same, HS8 costs 288.62 euro and HS80 costs 282.84 at the biggest professional audio equipment distributor from Romania. If you ask me what I would buy right now, I'll tell you honestly that I'll prefer the HS80. Why? Mainly because HS80 have plenty of sound settings, I know them for many years, I sold plenty and they still are the best sellers in my store. I also tested them in many studios and even worked with them in some projects like producing electronic music and mastering instrumental soundtracks for movies. But who knows? I might change my taste some day... As I said earlier I'll do more tests soon and I'll get some personal opinions from customers and friends and post them here. All the best! Cheers! |
Link : http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-m...s8-monitor.html |
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| Tecty |
Can someone explain me something? I just saw this comment in a youtube review of HS7 : Switch on the +2db on the Mid EQ for the NS 10 sound on your HS80M
You can't go wrong
I don't get it , if you switch the speaker to +2db on mids , that mean the speakers will make the mids sounds louder... but it doesn't change the actual mids into the song and etc, because a guy commented at that comment : idk why I haven't thought of that earlier! Thanks for the tip so now I could cut unwanted mids instead of boosting .
Which is stupid my opinion... the speaker doesn't boost the mids from the software is just play louder the mids... isn't like the speaker add you more mid and you can cut it from the soft.. I mean.. can someone explain me this?? And why the speakers have the eq things on the back? I heard is because of the room control or something but i'm in the fog.. totally confused...(why not all on flat or 0db) i mean i guess it can be because of bass traps and etc. but eh can someone explain me detailed?
On the HS8 you have just the Room control and Trim at the back.. would be nice to explain the differences between the eq from HS8 and just the one knob room control + trim ?
| quote: | | What I don't get is that they go from 4 control knobs on the HS80 to only 2 on the back of the HS8. Does that not restrict your ability to adapt to the room? Anyone knows more about that? |
| quote: | | There doesn't seem to be a lot of info around yet. The new drivers and port design are the main changes being mentioned, and I heard the electronic components are the same as the HS80. But there's obviously changes to rear-panel functionality, and I can't find anything about that. I guess we need a few more comparison reviews. |
Got them from youtube. |
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| DJ RANN |
Dude, unless you can test them yourself (and you know what to listen for and it's in a good environment etc) then you'll really have to wait until they have been properly reviewed, and by that, I don't mean some guy that owns a shop telling everyone how rad these new products he just got in stock are.
TBH, it could well be what Echosystem is suggesting - Yamaha pulling the Mackie switcherooney;
Mackie's HR824's got a lot of love, so after a decade, brought out some cheaper versions which basically where pretty crap, but people went out and bought them due to the mackie name and some heavy marketing.
The HS80's are great and well priced, so there's absolutely no need to be chancing other models unless you have it as gospel that they are better. |
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| Tecty |
One quick statement I will make is that 8" speakers tend to scoop the midrange away from you to some degree. Yamaha has overcome this issue with the HS8. In fact, it has a more present midrange than the 6.5" HS7 model which surprised us.
This is from a person that own a audio store.
Watch this video.
Before the sound testing he say the updates that have been made in HS8.
PS: also how you see at the end of the video he said that he didn't made it to say which is the best but the to help to decide which one is best for your tastes.. And how i will buy them online i wouldn't know or test them... that why i asked those questions about those eq things at the back... anyway i guess i'm going for HS8 |
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| Tecty |
| quote: | | I was just comparing the frequency response of the hs80m vs the hs8. The hs8 has a much more flat frequency response compared to the hs80m (which has scooped low mids and hyped top end) which is similar to the ns10s. This can also be verified in a way by yamaha's claim for the hs80m "If Your Mixes Sound Good On These, They'll Sound Good Anywhere". So it would seem that if you are going for the ns10 type of monitoring it would seem that the hs80m would be the way to go while if you need a more "accurate" monitoring, the hs8 would be more appropriate. |
Another comment about HS8 and HS80M from gearslutz. I can't decide which one i should chosse .. god :| |
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