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Real Trance Melodies Vol 1 and 2 - Midi file packs
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Sean Cronin
Hi Guys,

I've put together 2 packs here of Midi Files for ideas I had for tracks over the last 9 years. These were once my pride and joy and things I would never of wanted to sell a couple years ago. I put a lot of time into these over the years and could sometimes take a few days to even a week before the melody actually sounds just right.

I've come to the conclusion that they may be of use to other people on here who are starting out producing Trance music or for people who are looking for an idea for a new track. Some pretty serious melodies in these that I wish I did use for myself but I just no longer make this kind of music any more. I'm more into movie score, slower stuff nowadays.

Vol 1 - http://www.producerloops.com/Downlo...dies-Vol-1.html



Vol 2 - http://www.producerloops.com/Downlo...dies-Vol-2.html



Cheers,

Seán.
alanzo
I don't get these "melody packs". What am I supposed to do with this? Nice demo, though. Some real solid synths in there. What instrument/VSTi did you use for the demo?
Sean Cronin
Well people use these for tutorial purposes to see how to generally create a good trance melody, the structure of a melody and chord placement, help in understanding which keys work with each other and to get the hang of how to make a bassline pattern that will suit the upper keys being played. I put a lower key pattern on each midi so as for whoever is using can understand and why I chose it. Also for more experienced producers that might have a bit of a block could use them for inspiration for a track. I'd like to try get them onto people into other genres as well as with a bit of thinking these could be slowed way down and transformed into a completely different style.

For demo I used sylenth and massive most for both with sounds from my soundbanks only. But on vol 2 used a small bit of nexus and gladiator for that pizzicato sound.

I shift quite a few of these packs a week so a lot of people surprisingly use them.
tehlord
People dig this stuff.

I bet that 90% of people wanting/trying to be a supahstaR d33Jay have little to no musical training whatsoever.

The actual creation of melody and chord progression is like voodoo magic to them.

But yeah, the demos sound good.
Sean Cronin
Yup right on man. Thats a big difference with the new breed of producers coming about. You look at the likes of Ferry Corsten, Paul Van Dyk, Chicane etc.. These guys were part of a generation who were all classically trained pianists and had a real ear for music. These days though people are being influenced by guys who don't have that background so it's good people use these packs to their advantage.

I was always a fan of classical and movie score music so thats how I taught myself to create good melodies. I found people like the great Hanz Zimmer did things that dance music producers would never of, so really inspired me.

Ya I reckon as well the demo has helped the sales on these. Only now have I realised the importance of it haha.
tehlord
Quite right.

I was classically trained for nearly a decade (so basically just scratched the surface).

I'm not claiming to be a musical genius by any stretch of the imagination, but I know how to put notes together.

I'm quite vocal about people embracing the learning curve, but you still get the same old questions like 'what's your secret?'

Urm, 20 years hard work learning you dick.
Deillon
I hated when I was forced to play classical music on the piano when I had piano lessons when I was young. Now I realize how much it has helped.
tehlord
quote:
Originally posted by Deillon
I hated when I was forced to play classical music on the piano when I had piano lessons when I was young. Now I realize how much it has helped.


I suspect this isn't an isolated experience :p
Deillon
My sister had 8 years of lessons, all she can is play sheet music, whenever she tries improvising, it sounds retarded.
Sean Cronin
quote:
Originally posted by Deillon
I hated when I was forced to play classical music on the piano when I had piano lessons when I was young. Now I realize how much it has helped.


Piano lessons could be ing torture haha. I remember my teacher was an american and I was basically paying her to shout at me as that's all she did when I was there with her haha.

footsy
As Mr. mau5 said also..

"I've had little musical background, I just did what sounds good."


The thing is, the only real background you need is very basic music theory.

1,2,4,8,16,32, etc...

4/4 beat, 3/4 beat, 6/8 beat, etc...

C major, F minor, G Harmonic Major, etc...

That's really all you need to make a well made arrangement. The thing is, "theory" is just that, a theory. It's an idea of what sounds good, and so forth.

The thing I've noticed tho, is it's basic math. Just like being a mix engineer is basic math considering ratio's, delays, etc...

That's my 2 cents.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Midi packs. It's basically ghost writing, but everyone "ghost writes" if you follow basic music theory... same patterns, same chord progression, etc... follow basic mixing and arrangement.

Once again... my 2 cents.
tehlord
Nobody here is talking about theory. Theory is mostly irrelevant.

What we're talking about is the practise of actually playing relatively complex melodic pieces, the act of which changes the way you hear, create and perceive music.

It really, really has nothing to do with mathematics.
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