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Athiests/Agnostics: what would it take for you to become a believer? (pg. 4)
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Desiderata
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Originally posted by Lira
I'm not an atheist because I don't believe in God, I'm an atheist because I don't care whether there is one. If God exists, I'd live my life pretty much the same way.

But, I don't know? A "'Sup Dawg" from the sky?


Also if by some magic kept in a vault somewhere, that there is a god. I think he would be proud that so many people have questioned his existence.
Redd
please God, make Desiderata stop posting.
Desiderata
quote:
Originally posted by Redd
please God, make Desiderata stop posting.



It was a joke. So go yourself.
AlphaStarred
He was being facetious, dude.
Desiderata
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
He was being facetious, dude.







Oh, I took it personal. Felt like a jab my way. Oh well him anyway, in a nice way.
Moongoose
Some kind of actual scientific peer reviewed proof would be a good start.
Spam
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Originally posted by Moongoose
Some kind of actual scientific peer reviewed proof would be a good start.


9/11 was an inside job.
Marcus Summers
I used to be atheist. Then, I grew up.
aquila
quote:
Originally posted by Marcus Summers
I used to be atheist. Then, I grew up.


:haha:
Jon_Snow
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meriter
i would feel better if there was a very clear distinction between atheism and agnosticism, as far as I can tell atheism is a fundamental belief system and I would like to stay far the away from that
Spam
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Originally posted by meriter
i would feel better if there was a very clear distinction between atheism and agnosticism, as far as I can tell atheism is a fundamental belief system and I would like to stay far the away from that


There IS a clear distinction between the two.

One deals with belief while the other deals with knowledge.

Theism and Atheism strictly describe whether one believes in God (theism) or not (atheism).

Gnosticism and Agnosticism strictly describe whether one knows there is or is not a God (Gnosticism) or whether one does not know (Agnosticism).

So starting from the most religious you would have more or less the following groups:

Gnostic Theist: Believes in God(s), and claims to know God(s) exists.

Agnostic Theist: Does not know if a God exists, but believes in God non-the-less (I would wager that this is actually where most moderate religious people land).

Agnostic Atheist: Does not know whether or not a God exists, and does not believe in a God (The vast majority of non-religious folk land here, closely related to the "I don't give a " group).

Gnostic Atheist: Does not believe in a God, and claims to know that God does not exist.

There is no "system" to either.
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