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How many people still believe in Isaac Newtons's Determinism?
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| Desiderata |
| Any thoughts. I'm found of Heisenberg's law as it is correct but I would like to see how many people still believe in Determinism. |
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| Vector A |
| It's not really too accurate to talk about quantum mechanics overthrowing classical, but rather the latter is now seen as an approximation of reality that holds very well for the situations experienced in ordinary life but becomes less accurate at extremely high speeds and extremely small sizes. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
yo mama |
Say hi to your mother for me. |
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| FuzzQi |
Quantum physics ay, how do you quantify this
SCIENCE BITCH |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
waht you mean really?
believe in determinism?
like fate? |
Sort of like fate I guess you could say, it has more to do with Newton's law of motion. The Universe is like a big clock that was wound at the beginning of time and thus everything you do is predetermined . Einstein was a big fan of this and he said murderers weren't really 100% at fault for their actions because they were predetermined billions of years ago to do so but that doesn't mean they should be let free he later said.
Heisenberg said that electrons are random and can occur here or there or simultaneously here and there and thus over minding Newton's law of motion from what I understand. I could be wrong, I'm just dabbling with the idea I read from a Theoretical physics.
Einstein and Heisenberg (although I'm not certain) but they both used a God reference in explaining their situation.
Einstein said God does not play dice with the Universe.
Heisenberg said God does play dice with the Universe.
And that's all I know at the time. |
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| Psyshell |
I think most people who don't know enough about science to still believe in determinism probably don't care enough about science to believe in it purely for that reason.
I.E. All the science noobs would probably dislike the idea of determinism based on physics because they either are against it for gut instinct reasons or spiritual/religious reasons. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
It's not really too accurate to talk about quantum mechanics overthrowing classical, but rather the latter is now seen as an approximation of reality that holds very well for the situations experienced in ordinary life but becomes less accurate at extremely high speeds and extremely small sizes. |
Even though quantum mechanics is an uncertainty it clearly trumps determinism because electrons move in a free will pattern so therefore your past actions can not determine your future actions. Just like I read when you look into a mirror your not seeing yourself now, you're seeing yourself a billionth of a second ago as it takes that long for your eyes to adjust to your self in the mirror. |
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| Desiderata |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psyshell
I think most people who don't know enough about science to still believe in determinism probably don't care enough about science to believe in it purely for that reason.
I.E. All the science noobs would probably dislike the idea of determinism based on physics because they either are against it for gut instinct reasons or spiritual/religious reasons. |
Although you have a point, I think people should care, America's science education is compared to third world countries.
America's economy would collapse if it wasn't for the H1Visa which is known as the genus visa where 50% or more of all top PhD candidates in the top fields of growth in America are foreign born and that is an old statistic. |
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| itsamemario |
Heisenbergs law? You mean "We’re done when I say we’re done"?
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