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why is everybody copying avicii? (pg. 3)
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| Looney4Clooney |
don't really see people copying him. He is kinda so far removed from the EDM aesthetic that it is more like robert miles. I would hardwell and gang are the ones providing the really ty framework right now.
Pretty sure Rann is talking about one of the showtek guys. I had their first release in 2000 and then they went all crazy hard style and then electro pop dance all of a sudden became 128 bpm hard styler and they just probably realized why the not.
recently came across this guy. Still really rough but given his age , will probably be big in a year or 2. His album is all potential but with the right help, could do something nice.
Savant , i mentioned him a while back is just getting annoying with his hole i have autism bull. I mean it isn't a retard competition,
EDM guys just need help. Too many of them are lacking on the music side. Like i could make Seandroid number one on beatport but without taste and a knack with what the listener hums back, you don't really have anything. |
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| Viber |
One thing i don't get about Avicii is why he is so successful or being copied? he hasn't invented anything new, he's like the modern day Sash!.
i watched his one hour tutorial, his tracks are simply beats-->barely edited vengeance perc loops--->up and down vengeance wooshers from time to time--->chord loops x2 + pad based on those--->simple arp--->catchy lead melody.
nothing new here, these things were done since Moses wore short pants, what is there to copy here? |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
do people not like their own ideas ?
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I was listening to Deadmaus new 777 track about 2 minutes in and some fuktard says 'how bout some nice plucks here' during a section which is all about the beat.
https://soundcloud.com/mylife/777-1
If one of us posted a WIP like this section with just beats and a few sounds I'd bet the feedback on here would be similar - that it needs some quaint plucks or a bassline like someone else famous uses.
People don't like change in the main, they like familiarity - especially if it sounds like Above & Beyonds last years work or something else familiar but why is copying seen as good, it's been done already and things are moving on? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Love reading your posts Rann, you should open a blog.
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Lol, TA is my blog.
I don't get why, whenever we have these discussions about commercial house, does Electro suddenly come in to the conversation?
I also think those talking about Avicii haven't actually heard a set from him and are making their judgements on Levels and Wake me up - both those tracks are pop that happen to be on a 4/4 and have some synth sounds in them that vaguely represent some EDM sounds, in the same way Sash!, DJ quicksilver and Aqua did, but I have a lot more respect for the latter(s) as they
A) Knew exactly what they were doing (i.e. knowingly making eurodance cheese to play in disco-bars in Gran Canaria to drunk cougers)
B) Were doing it 15 years ago when EDM was at least something new.
Avicii plays bland, formulaic and tritely cliched dance pop to incredibly uneducated crowds.
He's no different to any of the other DJ's except his tracks are better known.
I know it's been posted before but this is an exact example of why that genre is dead in the water:
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| scorpradio |
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He's no different to any of the other DJ's except his tracks are better known.
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So, it's marketing then? |
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| djshire |
| It seems that Showtek has started a strange "trend" of hardstyle producers suddenly ditching hardstyle to make electro pop dance, but using similar sounds to what they made Hardstyle with, like "hardstyle kicks" and some of the more uplifting elements. |
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| Viber |
There's another Epic Mashleg for those interested, this one consists of 55 tracks!
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshire
It seems that Showtek has started a strange "trend" of hardstyle producers suddenly ditching hardstyle to make electro pop dance, but using similar sounds to what they made Hardstyle with, like "hardstyle kicks" and some of the more uplifting elements. |
that was being done before in the pop world with like basshunter. The one particular thing that has kinda just been in every tracks the use of the triplet ala darkside which was a hard trance hard style staple in 2000, And were as you could potentially still say stuff was house before, there is nothing there that is tied to house. The melodies are melodic and not jazz oriented. There is no shuffle , everything is very aggressive, things seem to not accentuate the backbeat anymore.
basically when white kids with no rhythm trey to make music. This is what happens. don't blame showtek for ditching the hard style. I mean it was going nowhere since 2004. I can see how they would do this new thinng called house because it is pretty much the same as hard trance and hard style. aggressive music that is more rock than disco.
Bruno Mars is making better dance music these days.
the stuff labelled prig house has more in common with like the heavy metal scene. Basically it is music for angry teens. Angry teens that do drugs and dress like pussies. and since the events don't ever have room, nobody learns to dance. |
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| Raphie |
BM brand is ijust cherrypicking 80 and 90ties soul gems, and giving them al little twist, so every below 40 doesn't know the original ánd everyone above 40 is to old to remember, but humm along as it still lingers in a distant part of their brain.
Very smart songwriting. The same bandwagon as being done for kate Perry and Gaga. Oldest trick in the book. You just fully disqualified yourself as a musician if you didn't pick that up.........
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
that was being done before in the pop world with like basshunter. The one particular thing that has kinda just been in every tracks the use of the triplet ala darkside which was a hard trance hard style staple in 2000, And were as you could potentially still say stuff was house before, there is nothing there that is tied to house. The melodies are melodic and not jazz oriented. There is no shuffle , everything is very aggressive, things seem to not accentuate the backbeat anymore.
basically when white kids with no rhythm trey to make music. This is what happens. don't blame showtek for ditching the hard style. I mean it was going nowhere since 2004. I can see how they would do this new thinng called house because it is pretty much the same as hard trance and hard style. aggressive music that is more rock than disco.
Bruno Mars is making better dance music these days.
the stuff labelled prig house has more in common with like the heavy metal scene. Basically it is music for angry teens. Angry teens that do drugs and dress like pussies. and since the events don't ever have room, nobody learns to dance. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
so you are saying people use ideas that have been done before and like ideas are generated from previous works ? Holy .
and somehow this is more a distraction than 99% of EDM that replaces the same song every 2 months.
It is funny that you have options about music. I mean you did the cliche move to mastering before any success mixing because well, i means its pretty ing obvious. Cute. |
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| TranceElevation |
| hjahahhahahaah!! |
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| CocaineAudio |
| his sound is popular and making him money .. I read his album "true" was the highest selling debutedm album ever.. why not try and copy something that's that successful |
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