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Need help with counterpoint (pg. 2)
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| Looney4Clooney |
| not really. There is only one voice that is prominent. The whole point is that you voices that interweave while both being prominent like a conversation. IT doesn't work in dance because it usually demands too much attention. |
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| Notle |
You can hear in chorus part 1.30 where the saw bass and the panned lead lines creating a harmony. Isn't that what is it all about? In one part of song only the main saw is playing so you can hear the difference.
found this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB5cli_OKtQ |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Notle
You can hear in chorus part 1.30 where the saw bass and the panned lead lines creating a harmony. Isn't that what is it all about? |
harmony ≠ counterpoint. |
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| Notle |
check the video above
vid Info:
In this video, Brian demonstrates how to create rich melodies and harmonies using the classical principles of "counterpoint."
of course you can use it like looney said in page 1 |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Notle
check the video above
vid Info:
In this video, Brian demonstrates how to create rich melodies and harmonies using the classical principles of "counterpoint."
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Not to sound like a dick, but a youtube vid isn't going to teach me more than four years of studying music theory/composition in college did. Yes, harmonies are created through use of counterpoint, but in responding to your question above (the one I quoted), simply creating a harmonic relationship between the bass and the lead is not the same thing as counterpoint. |
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| Notle |
Yeah you little bit sound like a dick but if you actually listened the song i posted you would have (maybe) understand my point there.
wikipedia: In music, counterpoint is the relationship between voices that are interdependent harmonically (polyphony) and yet are independent in rhythm and contour. |
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| cryophonik |
| I did listen to the track, as did Looney (another dick with a music degree), and we're both telling you that that's not counterpoint or a countermelody as there is only one voice playing a melodic line. Try reading the entire wikipedia article to get an understanding of the difference. Better yet, try listening to and looking at the musical score for some actual counterpoint. You can't change the definition of these terms just because you think I'm a dick, or because you fail to understand them after watching a youtube vid and reading the first line of a wikipedia page. |
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| eyepad |
:haha:
You're such a dick, Cryo. :p
I don't have a music degree but ya that's not counterpoint. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by eyepad
You're such a dick, Cryo. :p
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Yeah, I know. |
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| Notle |
But there is more than just one voice playing the melodic line and if you can't hear it maybe you should start practicing your ears more instead telling here how you went to college like its a big thing.
Its funny how every time I decide to write in this forum certain people start acting like dicks instead of civilized conversation. I'm not an expert in theory and all i was trying to get some answers, so instead telling how many years you went to college you should teach us uneducated folks how its done. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Notle
But there is more than just one voice playing the melodic line and if you can't hear it maybe you should start practicing your ears more instead telling here how you went to college like its a big thing.
Its funny how every time I decide to write in this forum certain people start acting like dicks instead of civilized conversation. I'm not an expert in theory and all i was trying to get some answers, so instead telling how many years you went to college you should teach us uneducated folks how its done. |
I don't see where I wrote anything uncivilized. You told me to look at a youtube vid. I told you that I don't need a youtube vid to teach me something that I've learned in college. I have a degree in music and I stated that as a fact so you know that you're getting advice from somebody who is educated on the subject. I also have advanced degrees in science. Those facts should tell you that I know a thing or two about many things. If that makes you feel insecure about yourself, too ing bad. Get over it. I think most people (not all) would agree that I'm one of the more helpful and friendly forum members. |
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| Notle |
| quote: | | Those facts should tell you that I know a thing or two about many things |
Wow, maybe you should be an astronaut then:) your so hilarious. Is that kind of talk common in US, it so funny. Heres your trophy MR cocky/ friendly! |
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