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| Seven Doxian |
| Just wondering if anyone has ozone 5 whats the reverb like?...im going to buy a new reverb and im torn between getting the all in one plug ozone5 or artsacoustic which I know is excellent....I need a new limiter and reverb so I though ozone 5 may fulfill both but if the reverb isnt good for big trance type sounds then I wont get it.....thanks for your help.... |
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| cryophonik |
| I've never tried using Ozone's reverb in the capacity you're talking about. Ozone is primarily designed as an all-in-one mastering suite and its reverb is, therefore, designed primarily as a mastering reverb. In other words, it's optimized for smearing/gluing a mix and giving it a sense of being in one space. I wouldn't imagine that it would be good for big trance sounds, especially not when you compare to some of the other options that are available (and probably use less CPU per instance than Ozone would). Then again, people use things in unintended ways all the time to come up with cool ideas, so I wouldn't completely rule it out, but I'd say that you're more likely to find a good solution with something like the Valhalla reverbs and a decent standalone limiter. |
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| beamrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seven Doxian
Just wondering if anyone has ozone 5 whats the reverb like?...im going to buy a new reverb and im torn between getting the all in one plug ozone5 or artsacoustic which I know is excellent....I need a new limiter and reverb so I though ozone 5 may fulfill both but if the reverb isnt good for big trance type sounds then I wont get it.....thanks for your help.... |
I didn't recommend to use Ozone as a reverb effect as Cryo said it's not designed for that, it's for mastering purposes that means for example you will not have a good hall reverb with it but maybe you can have a good ambience reverb to "glue" a mix.
So I strongly recommend artsacoustic reverb plugin it's excellent!! or you can go for a convulition reverb like Altiverb and download for impulses but you CPU can be drained if you use various instances of it.
Regarding limiter, the Ozone it's pretty good however I don't like the sound at all (but that's personal taste), I had better results with Waves L2 and another pretty good limiter with mid/side options and very good for dance music it's the slate digital FG-X I have tried it in another studio with some minimal techno and with a rock band and it was excellent. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| Thanks for the reply guys....I was thinkin about a standalone limiter and a seperate reverb....I was just thinking about killing 2 birds with one stone with ozone. ....but that makes sense....so Ive decided on artsacoustic now I just need a good transparent limiter under 200$....any you can think of? What the w1 freebee?.... |
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| beamrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seven Doxian
Thanks for the reply guys....I was thinkin about a standalone limiter and a seperate reverb....I was just thinking about killing 2 birds with one stone with ozone. ....but that makes sense....so Ive decided on artsacoustic now I just need a good transparent limiter under 200$....any you can think of? What the w1 freebee?.... |
MMMhhh not at that price, but you can get a Waves L2 ultramaximizer for $250 and it's quite a industry standard.... |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seven Doxian
...now I just need a good transparent limiter under 200$....any you can think of? |
I'm a huge fan of FabFilter Pro-L. It's regularly $229, but if you're a student, you can get it much cheaper. If you're not a student, I can do the refer-a-friend thing and you'll get 10% off (I get $14 in credit), bringing it down to about $206. Demo it and see if it's worth it to you, and/or watch some of the vids on their website about it.
If you're not in a hurry, wait for the next Waves sale (they're very frequent) and you'll probably get L1 or L2 for well under $200 (I think I've seen L1`as low as $59). But, don't buy directly from Waves - there are several official resellers that will sell it even cheaper (e.g., Waves Universe, JRR Shop, Plugin Discounts, etc.).
If you don't mind a iLok, JRR Shop has the Flux Pure Limiter 3 on sale for $69 right now. That's a killer deal on a really good limiter. Of course, it would cost you extra to buy an iLok if you don't already have one, but it would still only cost you a little over $100 for the dongle and the software.
http://www.jrrshop.com/flux-pure-li...ownload-license |
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| cryophonik |
Just checked AudioDeluxe and they have Waves L2 at $79.
http://audiodeluxe.com/products/wav...aximizer-native
You'll need to create an account, log in, and use the coupon code "HAPPY2014" to see the sale price. And, don't worry, these guys are 100% legit resellers of Waves licenses. They'll send you the license code, and you'll register it directly with Waves, with full support, etc. |
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| beamrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Just checked AudioDeluxe and they have Waves L2 at $79.
http://audiodeluxe.com/products/wav...aximizer-native
You'll need to create an account, log in, and use the coupon code "HAPPY2014" to see the sale price. And, don't worry, these guys are 100% legit resellers of Waves licenses. They'll send you the license code, and you'll register it directly with Waves, with full support, etc. |
WOW!!! that's a real killer deal! |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by beamrider
WOW!!! that's a real killer deal! |
Yeah, if you buy much software, it's worth registering with those guys, JRR Shop, Plugin Discounts, etc. Everything is discounted, even sale prices. So, when Waves runs their monthly sales, go to one of these resellers and it will usually be like 10-20% cheaper than the sale price.
@OP - if you haven't bought Arts Acoustic Reverb yet, you may want to look at some of those sites and see if they carry it. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| Thanks for the reply guys...ill definitely check that site out....but while I got u here how are you guys setting up your reverbs ? Sends or inserts?....I messaged 4 trance legends and was pleasently surprised they all replied !!!! Sean tyas , Moonsouls, Arctic Moon and Daniel Kandi. ...they all put the reverb on the insert which surprised me....Kandi was the only one who wouldnt say but did tell me that it depends upon the DAW....Tyas also added he recommended mid side eq. ...All super nice guys very helpful....Arctic moon uses lexicon...Moonsouls was using Artsacoustic but found it too buggy and now uses warmverb.... |
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| cryophonik |
I use reverb on sends and inserts, as well as on-board some of my synths. But, overall, I try to use as few as possible, so I always have two reverbs or so on sends.
Warmverb is a great reverb/multi-effect for trance. It's not designed to sound like the most realistic reverb, but if you want huge, dense, dreamy, reverb-drenched effect-scapes, look no further. |
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| beamrider |
Well it depends on the track, usually I set 2 or 3 as a send for ambience and halls and maybe some "glue". And then for certain sounds or effects I use some reverb as inserts, but it depends on the project.
I used to work a lot in the analog domain where you need to wisely use your routing and hardware so I have the habit to set at least 2 Reverbs as sends one "short" and one "long" and then tweak them. Now working with electronic music and in the digital domain I also set 2 or 3 reverbs as I said before.
It's a good practice to use same reverbs withing sounds to have some coherency in the overall mix, so the listener feels that everything sounds in the same place.
But there are no rules for this you should try everything and will find your best results for your projects |
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