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Mixing bass!
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| magik87 |
Hey guys!
Ill drop my noob question here. But how do you approach mixing bass and kick?
Do the kick stand for the lowest low (40-90 Hz) and the bass above that (90-200 Hz)?
If so, is it always or only if they both 'hit' at the same time?
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| echosystm |
Sidechain and high pass filter. It's not rocket science brah.
High pass kick somewhere around 20hz. High pass bass somewhere around 60hz. High pass snare anywhere from 20hz to 150hz, depending on what you're going for. High pass everything else from 150hz to 200hz, at least. |
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| kosmotika |
The best advice you will ever get will be the simplest advice: Use your ears. If it sounds good to you, chances are, it'll sound good to others too.
I recently got out of the habit of doing things "by the book" because my tracks sounded like absolute crap! Just remember to cut the mids (250-800khz) on everything to make the overall sound clearer. :) |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
The best advice you will ever get will be the simplest advice: Use your ears. If it sounds good to you, chances are, it'll sound good to others too.
I recently got out of the habit of doing things "by the book" because my tracks sounded like absolute crap! Just remember to cut the mids (250-800khz) on everything to make the overall sound clearer. :) |
3, 2, 1...wonder how much time before they eat you alive... |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
The best advice you will ever get will be the simplest advice: Use your ears. If it sounds good to you, chances are, it'll sound good to others too. |
....unless your monitoring system sucks and is deceiving your ears. It happens a lot. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Keep things round. Use a low pass filter with a sub and just listen to the bass region.it should have a very slight bounce but relatively uniform. This region is not really heard with ear buds and is exponentially amplified with loud pas. |
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| Domesty |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
....unless your monitoring system sucks and is deceiving your ears. It happens a lot. |
This. At least personal experience, which first it seems its allright i can make it happen with this and when you start to buffer your recorded audio it does not pack any punch.
So if you dont have top tier/manageable gear there are times you just can't tell. |
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| magik87 |
Thanks for all your replies! appreciate it alot! I already does those things like highpassing below 20 hz and all that, but it still sounds muddy / boomy.
Thats why I am wondering if keeping the bass in the higher range of the low region (100 - 250 Hz) and letting the kick take care of the lower part is good way to solve this. I have tried this but not sure yet. |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
3, 2, 1...wonder how much time before they eat you alive... |
See for yourself...first one was without cutting mids. Second has mids cut. Now, there isn't a *huge* difference, but you'll notice the individual sounds in the second one are more clear and the overall mix sounds a little less cluttered.
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Track is General Base - Rhythm & Drums btw
Here's a thread that explains what this is for: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=277932
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesty
This. At least personal experience, which first it seems its allright i can make it happen with this and when you start to buffer your recorded audio it does not pack any punch.
So if you dont have top tier/manageable gear there are times you just can't tell. |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
....unless your monitoring system sucks and is deceiving your ears. It happens a lot. |
Yeah, apologies, guys...I've gotten so used to mastering on technics that I forgot a lot of people probably are doing their work on cheaper headphones / speakers. OP, if you get the chance, do get yourself some good headphones. I personally recommend the Technics RP-DH1200s; they're a bit pricey, around the $130-140usd range, but well worth it. |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
See for yourself...first one was without cutting mids. Second has mids cut. Now, there isn't a *huge* difference, but you'll notice the individual sounds in the second one are more clear and the overall mix sounds a little less cluttered.
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Track is General Base - Rhythm & Drums btw
Here's a thread that explains what this is for: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=277932
Yeah, apologies, guys...I've gotten so used to mastering on technics that I forgot a lot of people probably are doing their work on cheaper headphones / speakers. OP, if you get the chance, do get yourself some good headphones. I personally recommend the Technics RP-DH1200s; they're a bit pricey, around the $130-140usd range, but well worth it. |
Bro, you're taking me into deep waters. However I'll just mention that the first example sounds better to me. Your goal shouldn't be making things clearer, but rather balanced. |
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| kosmotika |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Bro, you're taking me into deep waters. However I'll just mention that the first example sounds better to me. Your goal shouldn't be making things clearer, but rather balanced. |
On my older work, everyone would tell me to cut the mids to make it less muddy and all the tuts I read said this as well, so I just started removing all frequencies between 250-800. I guess that's just what I automatically do now to avoid having my songs sound messy like before.
Mastering has never been my strong suit... |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by kosmotika
On my older work, everyone would tell me to cut the mids to make it less muddy and all the tuts I read said this as well, so I just started removing all frequencies between 250-800. I guess that's just what I automatically do now to avoid having my songs sound messy like before.
Mastering has never been my strong suit... |
What the are you talking about?
Removing all the frequencies between 250-800? Will sound great if you want to remove the main content of most EDM tracks, not to mention mid bass (which is what most people think is the bassline of a track), the largest part of the vocal spectrum and nearly the lower third of just about any string instrument.
I would say engineering, producing and mixing are not really your strong suits judging by that statement. |
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