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Perceived Loudness (pg. 2)
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| inversoundzzz |
| i listen to other popular dance tracks in the genre. like on juno or soundlcoud |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| listen to the classics too. keep current but man are there some ty mixes |
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| Lith |
Depending on what type of music, you can always try mixing it into another track you think represents the "loudness" level you're looking for.
I guess I don't trust software analysis, as visual waveforms won't tell you, and I'm suspect on what measurements are being made.
I admit to having no qualified experience in this regard. I have rejected the software I tried to do this with originally.
I like the concept however, seems efficient. |
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| inversoundzzz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
listen to the classics too. keep current but man are there some ty mixes |
what are the classics? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
95-2000 |
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| LoveHate |
| I'm confused what do u mean measure perceived loudness ? Isn't that a psychoaccoustic phenomina when you add compression or saturation for example to a signal adding some sort of effect but keeping the original db range ? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
add something 10dB more intense sounds twice as loud. So something 20dB louder is 100 times more intense in terms of actual intensity but perceived as 4 times as loud.
Your ear is not linear or flat. |
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| Raphie |
It's very simple: 0dBFS is your absolute ceiling, there is nothing more beyond that.
You can squeeze in all you like, but spillovers WILL be dealt with in unpleasant ways at the ceiling AND tracks start sounding really ty beyond -5RMS 0dBFS scale
I tend to deliver most tracks around -9rms at the moment, though in Deephouse and Nu disco/dub techno more and more customers even start to prefer -12, go figure.......
IMHO is the loudness war over. There are some artifacts left in progressive beatport top 100 (vengeance / Pryda snare stuff) territory, but the more developed genres start to appreciate dynamics again. Which IMHO is a good thing.
I use Wavelab 8.5, but if you don't http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-ebuloudness/ is good metering too |
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| Raphie |
| Render from daw with a limiter shaving of 1dB or less a few times during the track then you should be good. Leave your master fader at unity though, that's your loudness and dynamics compas |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| it isn't always being triggered. Only catching a few peaks here and there. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
I'm confused what do u mean measure perceived loudness ? Isn't that a psychoaccoustic phenomina when you add compression or saturation for example to a signal adding some sort of effect but keeping the original db range ? |
You could have 2 tracks...first track measures -7db RMS and the second comes in at -10db RMS
Its possible that despite the first track being louder RMS wise that second track could actually sound louder to our ears than the first one
Its usually down to the mid-range content of the track and maybe how much space is in the track also |
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