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Perceived Loudness (pg. 3)
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| Raphie |
| fletcher munson tells you all about our sensitivity curves |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
fletcher munson tells you all about our sensitivity curves |
yep - its an important thing to understand when mixing |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
:wtf:
in what DAW is this? |
any daw |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Few applies to the gain reduction instances. Not render. |
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| DJ RANN |
tsk tsk, no one should be rendering :whip:
Print your tracks, NEVER render. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| I've heard the programmers talk about the bouncing process but how much difference is there really. And what about other daws. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Render is done non real time. Print is done real time.
It is generally better to print for many reasons. |
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| zodiac9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
dont think my daw supports this lol |
hhmm yeah, let's see, no "print" function in the FL studio menu.
Printing must be similar to recording vinyl to digital, real time. I've never heard of this in regards to digital-to-digital copies. How is it done? My old soundblaster live card had a feature called "record what I hear", you could record whatever sound was playing on your PC. My newer sound cards don't have that. |
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| optik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
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i make big decisions.
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lol
bob has never been into a club with a sound system that is competing with another room and seen that all the dials on the DJ mixer are set to 11 to try and compensate.
nor has he seen how dj's audition maybe 25 seconds out of a track (in 5 second chunks) before they listen to the whole thing..
the world is listening to EPs in their living rooms according to bob.
that's not to say he's not right, it's just that the whole dance industry would have to change before you could use K12
the tool I like is the cubase 7.5 meter + voxengo span, which is free |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Clubs are actually the one place were less compressed music works better. These systems like broadcast chains will usually make compressed sound ty.
So yes, it sells more on beatport but anyone who has played on a big system will say the older tracks , that are not as aggressive or loud hit harder. Thoe vengeance club kicks sound great on Dmall systems, around 909 kick which sounds weak on a small system , opposite on big one.
The I system is less about loudness and more about actual accuracy given a calibrated statement. A more tangible way to look at actual loudness and outpu
But I agree k-12 works for pop and some rock. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by clay
I aSume you can rekord your output using windows media recorder real time or any other recording software, however I am positively sure that would be worse than render. I think this is humbug unless using external compression or other hardware efex. Don't see the point, at least I've never heard anything wrong with rendering. |
Probably not. Again this was with protools, generally involving automation in the analog world. Ranns was ing with you.
But every daw has a live export. Pretty much the same. Some plugins especially ones using dsp cards don't deal well with bouncing. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| its more just a habit thing. some people claim the rendering engine is not the same but i think it is pretty much bs. |
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