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need some names of non generic sounding synths (pg. 2)
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| tehlord |
Omnisphere is the Daddy.
I just bought it's Grandaddy ;) |
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| TranceElevation |
| Omnisphere sounds a bit dull to me. I like the sound to be raw, dynamic, unprocessed at the source. Omni sounds too dynamically controlled from the source. Yes, that might be good with trillian cause many sounds are ready to be mixed, but I'm obsessed with having total control on each aspect of the audio. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
Omnisphere is the Daddy.
I just bought it's Grandaddy ;) |
Atmosphere? A JV? XP? JX? |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Omnisphere sounds a bit dull to me. I like the sound to be raw, dynamic, unprocessed at the source. Omni sounds too dynamically controlled from the source. |
It's a synth with more mod sources and destinations than most synths on the market. If you can't figure out how control every aspect of the sound, then you haven't tried hard enough (if at all). I mean, , not only are the LFOs and EGs all routable to any destination (or other sources), you've got the Orb, virtually unlimited multi-stage envelopes with random re-generation, random mod source, etc. not to mention waveshaping, FM, granular, the ability to layer two parts per patch into one 8-layer multi, etc etc etc. If you can't figure out how to get what you want out of that, then you've either never used Omnisphere, or were too lazy to look beyond the preset browser. |
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| TranceElevation |
| Exactly, 20 minutes of reverse engineering isn't really what I'm looking for. To each his own. |
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| djnitride |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Exactly, 20 minutes of reverse engineering isn't really what I'm looking for. To each his own. |
Omnisphere is one of the easier synths to learn and program, at least in my experience. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Exactly, 20 minutes of reverse engineering isn't really what I'm looking for. To each his own. |
Why would you need to reverse engineer something to have control over it? If you want to build a patch, start from scratch using an init patch. Or, if you want to alter a preset, open the mod matrix, or right-click on any knob and assign a mod/controller, or click on a drop-down menu, or click one of the clearly labeled buttons or tabs. Omni gives you more ways of accomplishing some of these tasks than any synth I know of. You'd have to be pretty new to software to not be able to figure it out. I'm guessing that, like most people, you've just heard that it's nothing more than a ROMpler/preset player and believed it, but never even looked at it yourself, right? |
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| cryophonik |
Here, give this video 19 minutes of your time and maybe you'll start to see how simple, yet very deep, Omnisphere is:
The patch itself is pretty basic and can be made in about 3 minutes time, but my main point was to give an overview of the interface/workflow, particularly when using the synthesis engine (i.e., rather than the 40GB sample library). |
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| TranceElevation |
Even if you init it still sounds compressed compared to Alchemy for example.
Didn't want to hurt your feelings Cryo. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Even if you init it still sounds compressed compared to Alchemy for example. |
It's a single-cycle waveform. It's not compressed, nor does it sound compressed. And, sound design is about going way beyond the init sound.
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Didn't want to hurt your feelings Cryo. |
You need to do better than that. Look, it's obvious that you have no clue about Omnisphere or sound design in general and are just perpetuating what you've heard. People have been doing that ever since Omni was released - I get that. It's an expensive synth, most people on trance forums don't even own it, and therefore are clueless about it. The OP has requested a list of synths that fit a certain category, and Omnisphere certainly fits his needs. The few people in this thread who actually have considerable experience with Omnisphere and sound design in general all agree that it is suitable and have justified it adequately. Your little attempt at insults won't trump that. You can have your opinion, but facts are facts. |
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| djnitride |
I'm trying to think of some powerful synths that have a UI / workflow close to Omnisphere in terms of being idiot proof. I honestly can't think of any.
Omnisphere was my first paid for Synth and I found it to be intuitive and easy to learn. Making good sounding patches was relatively simple without even utilizing all the zooming functionality.
Yes, that's right, zoom. Omni hides much of its more advanced features intentionally behind a Zoom system in order to not overwhelm you with things you may not need. IMO, it's the ultimate synth for a beginner in sound design, which is why I find it somewhat ironic TranceElevation that you just write it off for having to "reverse engineer" it. That's flat out ridiculous. |
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| TranceElevation |
I guess your considerable experience with Omnisphere didn't get you that far if you're still here among us simple mortals.
Yes, it sounds compressed to me. |
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