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need some names of non generic sounding synths (pg. 3)
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| cryophonik |
| At least we agree that Alchemy rocks. :) |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Atmosphere? A JV? XP? JX? |
*cough* V-Synth XT *cough* |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
*cough* V-Synth XT *cough* |
Oh yeah, duh. Nice! |
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| cryophonik |
Wow, look at that. The amplitude and waveform of the raw init sounds are slightly different. No , Sherlock. They're two different synths with different synth engines, different oscillators, and different default settings. My hardware and software synths also all have slightly different waveforms, and many of them are also pretty boring sounding, including all the analog synths I've ever owned. The idea behind sound design is to design sound, not play the init patch.
Since you're bored, why don't you go through and do a complete pairwise comparison of the all of Omni's raw waveforms, including the 40GB library to all of Alchemy's thousands of raw waveforms and samples. Then, maybe the OP can get something useful out of your comments. |
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| TranceElevation |
| At least admit it I was right when saying that even initialized it is compressed. And now you've seen it, is actually limited. |
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| djnitride |
As cryo said, comparing synth init settings is a waste of time and proves nothing.
Question, why havn't you sold your copy of Omni if you don't like it? At such a steep price it makes me somewhat suspicious that you would keep something around like that... Would you be interested in selling your copy now, I know someone who would like it. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
At least admit it I was right when saying that even initialized it is compressed. And now you've seen it, is actually limited. |
That's not limited. Limiting and compression affect the dynamic range (i.e., amplitude), not the shape of a single-cycle waveform. A single-cycle sawtooth waveform goes up to a positive value, ramps down to the negative of that value, then comes back up to 0. If you hold that note, you see a repeated succession of the single-cycle waveform. If two waveforms are shaped slightly differently, their timbre differs. There is no such thing as a perfect single-cycle waveform, so each synth's raw waveforms will sound a little different and will appear a little different in an oscilloscope, as you're seeing in your image. Modulating, filtering, waveshaping, etc. will change the shape of the waveform and will make it sound different - that's called sound design.
But, again, all of this has nothing to do with the OP's question. He is looking for synths that can go beyond the basic generic subtractive sounds. The raw single-cycle waveforms from all of these synths is about as generic as you can get, so it's pointless. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by djnitride
As cryo said, comparing synth init settings is a waste of time and proves nothing.
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:D
Hey, while we're on the topic, you have Synthmaster, don't you? I know Geoff (tehlord) has it, or did at least. I didn't really need it, but JRRShop has it for $46 right now, so I bought it, but haven't had time to use it yet. Anyway, just curious what you guys think about it, as far as non-subtractive stuff goes. I demoed it years ago, but it was $200 at the time and so I didn't really give it the time of day. |
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| djnitride |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
:D
Hey, while we're on the topic, you have Synthmaster, don't you? I know Geoff (tehlord) has it, or did at least. I didn't really need it, but JRRShop has it for $46 right now, so I bought it, but haven't had time to use it yet. Anyway, just curious what you guys think about it, as far as non-subtractive stuff goes. I demoed it years ago, but it was $200 at the time and so I didn't really give it the time of day. |
Wow way to go and trigger GAS Cryo :haha:
Ive been interested in this synth as well just because all of the different synthesis types it offers, guess I am going to pick it up now as I have heard good things about it from a few sources now. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by djnitride
Wow way to go and trigger GAS Cryo :haha:
Ive been interested in this synth as well just because all of the different synthesis types it offers, guess I am going to pick it up now as I have heard good things about it from a few sources now. |
Sorry, I thought you mentioned having it in another thread. Oops. But, yeah, that price is too good to pass up. It says $55, but it should go to $46 when you put it in the cart. |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by djnitride
As cryo said, comparing synth init settings is a waste of time and proves nothing.
Question, why havn't you sold your copy of Omni if you don't like it? At such a steep price it makes me somewhat suspicious that you would keep something around like that... Would you be interested in selling your copy now, I know someone who would like it. |
I didn't say I don't like it. I said it sounds a bit dull and if compared with Alchemy I choose the latter.
Likewise I don't think you would throw away the rest of your synths cause Omni sounds better do you?
It has some nice choirs (and the velocity curve is amazing for example). However different synths have different timbres and characters. I have my own taste. |
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