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how versatile is acid?
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| rubez |
i kind of view acid like psy - limited to one specific sound. infact, they both come from the same 303 sound, do they not?
with people like josh wink it seems to have endured all these years.
i found a new hardfloor record from 2014! - still rocking the acid sound!
i haven't caught a josh wink set before, does he play this sound exclusively, would that even be possible? his mixmag cd from 2007 'acid classics' is awesome.
robert babicz is making some really superb use of acid in the present - not just the blatant and stereotypical gurgle or tweet sound. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
i kind of view acid like psy - limited to one specific sound. infact, they both come from the same 303 sound, do they not?
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Acid is a specific sound, whereas Psy is a sub-genre of Trance. Two different things. |
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| inversoundzzz |
well, i guess you can have an acid sound but it can translate across many genres.....ie. you can have some acid sounding trance, or house, or techno, or psy trance...
so as a sound it is versatile i think......because to me all acid is, is high resonance low filter cutoff saw waves....but you can do that at 120 bpm or 180 bpm
you can add vocals on it or dub samples etc...
so final verdict....versatile.....sortof |
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| rubez |
i am thinking more the core sound, rather than the bastardised offshoots...
though i have heard it work very well with trance - darren tate's prayer for a god. i heard matt darey mix it together (mashed up along with the sample from underworld cowgirl) with acid storm-beast misjah & tim - access, in a LONG drawn out mix (limited edition euphoria, check it out if you can) ing epic.
i suppose you can rightly argue it is just an effect, as you say, i suppose that's why i am curious that it has managed to spawn an entire genre effectively. |
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| rubez |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Acid is a specific sound, whereas Psy is a sub-genre of Trance. Two different things. |
i don't see them that differently. acid isn't (at least) a sub-genre?
and conversely, psy isn't a specific sound? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
i don't see them that differently. acid isn't (at least) a sub-genre?
and conversely, psy isn't a specific sound? |
You really don't know the difference between a genre and a specific sound? |
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| rubez |
| acid isn't a genre? |
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| inversoundzzz |
| yea it's a genre, but you want to talk versatile....and I guess it's inherently not versatile since it puts you in a limited amount of sonic possiblities.....it's like createing a genre for dubstep growls.....so not the genre dubstep...but a whole genre where you're only supposed to use FM yoy type sounds...which ...kind of is what dubstep is any way......lol yea. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
acid isn't a genre? |
We've had this discussion in another thread. Acid can also be considered a genre, where this "specific sound" (i.e. the one coming from the TB-303) is dominant, and the percussion serves more as a backdrop and builds itself around the acid:
Same thing can be said with Solar Quest - Acid Air Raid, as it's the acid (specific sound) that "makes" the track, and is at the forefront.
Then you have:
- which I would say is more "acid techno" because the sound coming from the 303 not necessarily the dominant instrument here. Many would call this a Techno track with acid in it, as well.
Psy, on the other hand, is not a specific sound, coming from one specific machine (like Acid), but rather a blend of sonic elements and fast tempo that gives it the name. |
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| rubez |
i would say psy is a very specific sound, maybe even more so than acid.
the psy sound comes from THAT bassline, where as acid sounds can form gnarly basslines or shrill highs.
without that bassline, it's basically not psy. |
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| rubez |
some top quality, expertly subtle, modern use of acid.
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