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Do you guys still submit tracks to labels? (pg. 4)
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| Oakenshield |
| quote: | Originally posted by deegee
It's not about whether people will dance to their music, it's about marketing and building a brand. Much easier to do that with a pretty face (PVD, Garrix, Lisa Lashes, Sandra Collins, Avicii, Tiesto, Ferry, etc) than with most of us pudgy couch addicts. |
to true you find most of the new bread well some are ghost written with them just doing the stage work solid sound from good producers and good looks its why we have so many ghost producers now.
and i can bet you garrix would get a gig over a friend of mine who has been a residant at big clubs ministery,cream,amnesia etc cant get the big festival events yet he has been at and worked with some of the best dj's and clubs going.
DJ FUBAR im on about if you want to know. |
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| Oakenshield |
he has been around a long time before he got big its not the same as garrix releaseing 1 track then he is suddenly doing tommorro land.
i mean who the fk gets them giggs of the back of 1 tune if you watch the in the studio video on you tube he does not seem that competent to have been releasing lesser tracks for a number of years never mind insta signing for a big label and strait into a big festival over dj's that have been around forever released lots of tracks but dont get the same deal.
oh and the mouse head has made him more famous as it stands out |
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| deegee |
Well, plenty of people have had huge success off a single hit--a few people here are old enough to remember Darude when he first popped up, for example.
The mouse head is a schtick, like Gaga's costumes; it has not much if anything to do with his actual talent (which is considerable). Just there as a useful marketing hook. |
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| Trancelover03591 |
| Martin gets a gig at Tomorrowland because he sells tickets. I think it just comes down to that. |
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| deegee |
Well, yes. The more useful question is "why does he sell tickets?"
The answer is twofold:
1) Had a smash breakout hit, which is inextricably tied to
2) Pretty face
If he looked like most of us bedroom producers, his record would be played but he himself would not be famous. |
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| MSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by sonix
You mean like Spotify? Many Grammy artists have complained about not making much on those subscription services. If you're talking about a single subscription to a single artist exclusively, then why would people buy so many subscriptions since people like so many artists?
What do you mean by not fully explored on YouTube? They have live streams and many YouTubers have gotten millions from their channels. |
No, You're thinking way too inside the box, I dont feel like persuading you and giving you examples that have just recently emerged on the net. |
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| Seandroid |
Neither Martin Garrix nor Avicci are notably good looking... Calvin Harris is good looking, but honestly... I don't think looks have as much to do with it as you'd think.
Skrillex? deadmau5? Dada Life? Eric Prydz? Hardwell? Tiesto? Nicki Romero? Kill The Noise?
They're all pretty average looking dudes. |
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| Oakenshield |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Neither Martin Garrix nor Avicci are notably good looking... Calvin Harris is good looking, but honestly... I don't think looks have as much to do with it as you'd think.
Skrillex? deadmau5? Dada Life? Eric Prydz? Hardwell? Tiesto? Nicki Romero? Kill The Noise?
They're all pretty average looking dudes. |
most of them you list have been around YEARS well before the new gen
and compared to me alot of them are good looking lads haha
im far to ruff looking to be a pretty boy :D:haha: |
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| deegee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Neither Martin Garrix nor Avicci are notably good looking... Calvin Harris is good looking, but honestly... I don't think looks have as much to do with it as you'd think.
Skrillex? deadmau5? Dada Life? Eric Prydz? Hardwell? Tiesto? Nicki Romero? Kill The Noise?
They're all pretty average looking dudes. |
Speaking as someone who likes guys, most of them are def above average in looks (Garrix is a cute kid but WAY too young), although Skrillex is having some seriously regrettable hair choices.
It's the older generation of Djs--Oakie, Digweed, Sasha, Jimmy Van Malleghem, Dave Seaman, etc--who aren't so good looking, because they came up the ranks when basically all that mattered was what you caned on the decks. Nowadays, you're just not going to make it big (unless you are a way-the-hell-out-there talent and/or been plugging away so long that you've built a following) without looking pretty, or at least photogenic. Same with, say, TV cooking show hosts. The days of sweaty and frumpy Mario Batali and Julia Child are over--you have to be TV-acceptable now. Sure, there are exceptions in all areas, but if you're looking at what's going to get the big dollars it's pretty much always going to be the 5/10 talent with the 8/10 face and not the other way around.
Is it gross? Yeah. Electronic music is one of those areas where even putting on a live show isn't really about the face--it's about the songs and the flashy lights because everyone's off their anyway. But when it comes to promotion, sex sells. Same as it ever was. |
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| Trancelover03591 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Oakenshield
most of them you list have been around YEARS well before the new gen
and compared to me alot of them are good looking lads haha
im far to ruff looking to be a pretty boy :D:haha: |
Was that taken at Radio Shack or something? Kind of a random place to take a picture. lol. |
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| Seandroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by deegee
Speaking as someone who likes guys, most of them are def above average in looks (Garrix is a cute kid but WAY too young), although Skrillex is having some seriously regrettable hair choices.
It's the older generation of Djs--Oakie, Digweed, Sasha, Jimmy Van Malleghem, Dave Seaman, etc--who aren't so good looking, because they came up the ranks when basically all that mattered was what you caned on the decks. Nowadays, you're just not going to make it big (unless you are a way-the-hell-out-there talent and/or been plugging away so long that you've built a following) without looking pretty, or at least photogenic. Same with, say, TV cooking show hosts. The days of sweaty and frumpy Mario Batali and Julia Child are over--you have to be TV-acceptable now. Sure, there are exceptions in all areas, but if you're looking at what's going to get the big dollars it's pretty much always going to be the 5/10 talent with the 8/10 face and not the other way around.
Is it gross? Yeah. Electronic music is one of those areas where even putting on a live show isn't really about the face--it's about the songs and the flashy lights because everyone's off their anyway. But when it comes to promotion, sex sells. Same as it ever was. |
I'm also speaking from the same perspective, for what it's worth lol.
I've completely disassociated my face from my music... Maybe that's not really a good idea. I'm not really camera shy or anything, people are just s.
Pictures of me have been edited in rather disturbing ways even on this very website lol |
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| Oakenshield |
| it was a shop i worked at as a computer engineer mrs brought me a coffee :D |
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