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DJ RANN
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Originally posted by rubez
my freshly shaven nutsack has more hair than your head :D

i've spent an accumulative, estimated 24 hours playing with various drum machines and hardware synths in the last year. and probably no more than the same again in the last 10 years with a DAW.

JDXI was the first time playing a keyboard. i don't take it seriously... i do it for fun (don't know about you)

the real sad thing is if you are taking this seriously, thinking there is some sort of future in this beyond having fun. there isn't... where has the last decade of toying with DAWs and VSTs gotten you? exactly.

where are my critiques anyhow?

JDXI is a great little groovebox/synth keyboard.


Have you actually heard any of MSZ's tracks?

I'd probably say he's on of the most talented producers on TA. He'd probably be fistumping right at a rate of $100k a night right now if he'd of jumped on the EDM badnwagon.

It's a little strange to coat someone who is lightyears ahead you, when you're the one asking for for a critique on a bunch of loops.
My rectum makes more interesting sounds than are on your soundcloud and I would argue that it's also better at engineering.

Per you own words, you spent 10 hours making 64 tracks. That's just about 9 minutes per track. How about spending 10 hours on one track and then ask us in the WIP thread if it's any good?
Mr.Mystery
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Originally posted by rubez
why wouldn't it be? :stongue:

to say something sounds like 2016 trance is the absolute worst possible thing you could say about a track.

it has never sounded ter than it does right now - and that trend seems to be going in only one way. it isn't even the music per se, it's the so called production values.

i'd like to hear some modern trance unmolested, before it was sent through all these compression and mastering techniques. even the simple process of changing out the kick - a two second job - to something more natural could improve some tracks no end.

i believe modern trance tracks would actually sound a lot better 'unfinished'. producers today need to take a step backwards and realise why their music sounds so crap... why there has been NO classics in the past ten years - and why the ten years prior were jam packed with them. even melody master ferry corsten has failed to produce anything that inspires. his last track of worth was pulse - festival, whenever that was!
That... that is not how mastering works.
MSZ
There is no point of reasoning with him, if you take a look at his other posts, he gets off at making insults and never shows any remorse. Reminds me of my dark days.
rubez
like the terminator, i can't be reasoned with :D

jdxi only does 4 bar loops. yes they are loops.

the meat of any (trance) track can be boiled down to a 4 bar loop... "vision" give me a break, you're creating amateur trance, there is no vision. if it were pro trance, the same would still apply.

fleshing these out to full blown tracks (i shouldn't have used that word in the thread name, peeps be getting hung up on it) seems a bit anal. i don't know. everyone here seems to take themselves too seriously... maybe that's why you have the patience to make full length tracks.

also, what one sounds alright? JDXI 3, one slut says :stongue:
rubez
like the terminator, i can't be reasoned with :D

jdxi only does 4 bar loops. yes they are loops.

the meat of any (trance) track can be boiled down to a 4 bar loop... "vision" give me a break, you're creating amateur trance, there is no vision. if it were pro trance, the same would still apply.

fleshing these out to full blown tracks (i shouldn't have used that word in the thread name, peeps be getting hung up on it) seems a bit anal. i don't know. everyone here seems to take themselves too seriously... maybe that's why you have the patience to make full length tracks.

also, what one sounds alright? JDXI 3, one slut says :stongue:

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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Per you own words, you spent 10 hours making 64 tracks. That's just about 9 minutes per track. How about spending 10 hours on one track and then ask us in the WIP thread if it's any good?


you kind of answered your own question. 64 different loops (which can be played out indefinitely) with different styles, different synths, different basslines. or one big track. guess we have different ideas of fun, which is ok. that's what makes the world go round.
TranceElevation
Juan Paulino, is that you? Why do you hack people's profiles you little psycho? :D
AlphaStarred
quote:
Originally posted by rubez
fleshing these out to full blown tracks (i shouldn't have used that word in the thread name, peeps be getting hung up on it) seems a bit anal. i don't know. everyone here seems to take themselves too seriously... maybe that's why you have the patience to make full length tracks.

also, what one sounds alright? JDXI 3, one slut says :stongue:


So everyone who puts in the time and effort into making full tracks takes themselves too seriously? Does that mean everyone (including "pro" producers) who's ever finished a track takes themselves too seriously and isn't having any fun? What exactly are you trying to say here?

If you're just ing around and making loops, why even ask for feedback, then? Since you're not actually planning to finish a single track, ever, why bother wasting our time?

Are you mentally ill, by any chance? I don't mean to be offensive, just curious.
Mr.Mystery
Okay...

You have no talent. You have no artistic vision. You don't even seem to have the slightest idea on what you're doing. You're just doodling like a three year old on an etch-a-sketch.

You claiming to "only do it for the fun" and "not giving a " is simply the biggest pile of bull I have ever read anywhere ever. If that was really true, you would not be asking for critique in the first place, let alone getting your panties in a bunch when people tell you how pointless your four bar loops are.

I wish I could call you a troll, but the sad fact is that would be an insult towards trolls. You are a sad, pathetic individual who has no idea about the fact that nobody likes you or wants you anywhere.

Even Juan managed to make a complete track at least once, for 's sake.
rubez
someones toys came flying out their pram, didn't they?

"okay..."

getting ready to unload like a little bitch :stongue:
Vector A
Awesome thread.

DJ RANN
quote:
Originally posted by rubez

jdxi only does 4 bar loops. yes they are loops.


So did every electribe ever made, but somehow some clever people figured out that if you make the next 4 bars a little a different, then the next one after a little different again....you have what is called a track.

It's a shame that you didn't figure that out after 10 years of practice.


quote:
Originally posted by rubez
the meat of any (trance) track can be boiled down to a 4 bar loop...


Says who? Any of the trance worth listening to is where the whole track shines, not just a 4 bar loop after the 2nd breakdown.


quote:
Originally posted by rubez
"vision" give me a break, you're creating amateur trance, there is no vision. if it were pro trance, the same would still apply.


Pro trance you say? please do explain. I cannot wait to hear what "pro" trance is.

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
fleshing these out to full blown tracks (i shouldn't have used that word in the thread name, peeps be getting hung up on it) seems a bit anal. i don't know. everyone here seems to take themselves too seriously... maybe that's why you have the patience to make full length tracks.


Your asking for you music to be critiqued and you're posting up sixty four 10 second loops, then wondering why you're getting ridiculed?

And to Mystery's point - to finish a track you have to take yourself "too seriously"? That's the qualification to finish a full track? Bizarre. Everyone that's ever finished a full track must have serious issues. I mean, if they were normal they'd have just put out a 4 bar loop and be done with it.

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
you kind of answered your own question. 64 different loops (which can be played out indefinitely) with different styles, different synths, different basslines. or one big track. guess we have different ideas of fun, which is ok. that's what makes the world go round.


You're talking bollocks becuase: A) none of these are a full tracks, B) None of them are worth turning in to a full track in teir current state C) If you had turned any one of them in to not even a full track but just something with say 2 mins of structure, that might be something, but you haven;t, so it's not and D) You can't just slap a few of these together and you magically have a track worth listening to so the parts don't equal any kind of sum.

If you want advice, make something someone can critique (Hint: make sure it's longer and more interesting than four bars).
AlphaStarred
Since you don't seem to respond to the constructive criticism here, what's the purpose of this thread?
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