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| prestige |
ok lemmie just enlighten everybody..... macs are just a different OS then windows machines, hardware wise they are the same...except..
as of right now..apple computers are not more advanced than intel or amd. even if macs are dual processor, its still cant handle the tasks you can get from P4's or athalons.
PC's are multi-task computers. Meaning you can get a MOBO with Dual 2.8 GHz P4's or dual AMD AthalonXp 2800+.
the difference between is micro seconds, you cant tell the difference in speed between the two.
i belive motorola makes the processors for macs.
its harder to maintain a windows machine then it is a mac tho. |
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| JohnSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Flesch
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EWW!! don't get an emachine!
i used to work at future shop, emachines are the worst pieces of crap you can buy, they are made with subgrade parts and come back for repair more often than any other brand!
please, if you want a reliable computer, don't get an emachine.
Now, as far as Mac Vs PC, i'm not sure, i've never used a mac. but i love my PC!
just please, don't get an emachine if you decided to go with a PC, get a dell they are pretty good, my company relies on them. |
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| Dj Flesch |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
EWW!! don't get an emachine!
i used to work at future shop, emachines are the worst pieces of crap you can buy, they are made with subgrade parts and come back for repair more often than any other brand!
please, if you want a reliable computer, don't get an emachine.
Now, as far as Mac Vs PC, i'm not sure, i've never used a mac. but i love my PC!
just please, don't get an emachine if you decided to go with a PC, get a dell they are pretty good, my company relies on them. |
I've read several recent articles about emachines that say they have done a 360 in the last couple of years. Their tech support and warrenty are much better etc. I'm a computer geek, so of course I would never buy a prebuilt system, but it's a cheap way to go if you can't build your own machine! |
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| golan |
| definitley mac, if it's for audio aplications, but if it's for websurf, and mack around, better a pc. |
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| LeVouS |
Erm.. Personally i don think MAC is for audio .. i guess they should have same quality with PC ... MAC is better and dominating in Art .. people who works in any art subject like graphic design or etc are the one who like to use MAC computer especially a Wide screen Laptop Powerbook or G4 [ I am not sure though what it calls ] So for people who dont work in art area, i dont think they want to spend those much of money for a PC :toothless :toothless :toothless
Peace, LeVouS |
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| DJ LIQUID |
| quote: | Originally posted by Special_K
Im not looking to use my computer for all those little programs. PCDJ, Virtualtables....all usless for me. Im doing audio engineering in school and i use programs like Protools, Logic Audio, reason and Q-base....all the big boys.
Ill post the specs of the PC i want to get tongiht |
If your going to be serious about it then definetly go Apple :D
just get a PC to do everything else...games, surting the net, word processing, etc. :D |
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| DJ_Shockwav |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeVouS
Erm.. Personally i don think MAC is for audio .. i guess they should have same quality with PC ... MAC is better and dominating in Art .. people who works in any art subject like graphic design or etc are the one who like to use MAC computer especially a Wide screen Laptop Powerbook or G4 [ I am not sure though what it calls ] So for people who dont work in art area, i dont think they want to spend those much of money for a PC :toothless :toothless :toothless
Peace, LeVouS |
actually, in professional audio (like what i do, radio production)
a mac is far greater than a PC
in almost every radio station i've worked in, they've used the apple powerbox G4 |
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| Dzokayi |
Some of these responses made me cringe. Please guys, consider what you're spouting as advice before you hit the send button:
"Personally I don think MAC is for audio"
Why on earth not?
Then there was the recommendation for dual 'athalon xp 2800+'. There is no such processor available. However, there is an Athlon xp2600, but this is not designed to work in dual configurations. The fastest SMP-enabled athlon is currently the 2200mp. Drawing pencil traces on your processors is not the sturdiest foundation for building a trouble-free workstation.
b i n k u n made some solid recommendations for mac components. I would also add, if this is to be a pro-spec workstation:
Max the RAM
go SCSI for storage, and make it redundant (backups)
Dual monitors
Nice set of monitor speakers
Cheers... |
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| bachatu |
Macs handle resources better than pcs. Thats why they are used especially with things like video editing, animation, audio, etc. For what their specs are, lets say like 800mhz, they can outperform a PC 1.5ghz machine 200 bus machine without a problem. They are built on a different architecture than PC.. Macs and PCs are not only different in software, otherwise parts would be interchangeable.
Not everyone has the money for MACs..
Obviously, there is more expandability with PC, more software available, but that is what makes it less stable than a MAC.
But if you are serious about a specific app like video editing, music production,,, youd go with MAC.
WHy do peep say pc are better... cause thats what they are using. Everyone has pride in what they use. However, ask any a pro in audio or video who has used both, they will tell you the truth. |
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| Xquisite |
tried both.
Would have to say a Mac is better for entertainment development purposes because it is faster despite what people say here. however, like everyone else says, PC is more versatile.
The problem that i have faced with macs, is they use proprietary components, and do not have as much software support as the PC. I would love to buy the G4, it's sweet. At the same time, not worth the $$$ because I don't do professional editing nor enough software support.
If you need a computer for multi-task stuff as well as games, programming, and intermediate editing, go for the PC. |
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| DJ_Shockwav |
| quote: | Originally posted by bachatu
Macs handle resources better than pcs. Thats why they are used especially with things like video editing, animation, audio, etc. For what their specs are, lets say like 800mhz, they can outperform a PC 1.5ghz machine 200 bus machine without a problem. They are built on a different architecture than PC.. Macs and PCs are not only different in software, otherwise parts would be interchangeable.
Not everyone has the money for MACs..
Obviously, there is more expandability with PC, more software available, but that is what makes it less stable than a MAC.
But if you are serious about a specific app like video editing, music production,,, youd go with MAC.
WHy do peep say pc are better... cause thats what they are using. Everyone has pride in what they use. However, ask any a pro in audio or video who has used both, they will tell you the truth. |
hahaha
THAT'S what i've been saying
and i am a pro who has worked on both and i prefer the mac
i've worked on PCs and many times i've lost what i was working on before i had a chance to save it
in a production studio, i've only seen a mac crash once
that was cause we had pro tools open along with winamp and we were looking for some audio samples on the net as well i think we were also in the process of downloading voiceovers from the station's ftp and sending a promo to the on-air computer...
as soon as i can afford it, i'm buying one for my home studio |
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| prestige |
apple computer:
Processing and memory
Dual 867MHz, 1GHz or 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 processors
Velocity Engine vector processing unit
Full 128-bit internal memory data paths
Powerful floating-point unit supporting single-cycle, double-precision calculations
fellas fellas, it sounds like there is a war going on between us....
mac, pc, mac, pc....mac is better for this...pc is better for this..blah blah blah...
but i belive that a PC(windows/linux)has the advantage. Yea, a g4 is a pretty impressive machine, hard to compete against. and the reason most people with a rec studio use a mac..is because their friends told them to get one, and/or because their too dumb to construct a machine that can really take some punishment
an apple g4 dual 855MHz can easily out-perform a intel pentium4 1.89GHz anyday, at about 75-89% faster. but remember, a p4 doenst thread out info like the apple does.
On the other hand, something that does thread out info like the G4, only better, is a dual AMD Athalon MP 2100+ powered workstation
accompanied by proper components.
AMD Athalon MP
The AMD Athlon MP processor, together with the innovative AMD-760 MPX chipset, delivers breakthrough performance in a dual processor platform. The AMD-760 MPX chipset is a high-performance, two-way multiprocessor core logic solution for AMD Athlon MP processors. Commercial enterprises can achieve high levels of productivity with the advanced features of the AMD-760 MPX chipset. An enhanced 266MHz system bus, support for DDR memory technology, and an AGP-4X graphics interface work together with sophisticated core logic in memory and I/O control to provide a powerful solution for workstation platforms.
AMD Athalons use HyperTransport Technology, which is designed to increase overall performance by helping to remove I/O bottlenecks, which improves bandwidth and reduces latency. HyperTransport allows the AMD Athalon processor to be deployed in 2P, 4P, and scalable 8P platforms. HyperTransport technology enables glueless multiprocessing and provides an easy building block approach to system design. HyperTransport allows easy integration of a variety of third-party solutions
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So i hope this will chill everyone out |
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