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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
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Well, one of their numbers became famous for telling people everyone wanted to get it on with their mothers, so I'm in no position to disagree with you there :p
And I thought they were similar because Southern Germany (and Austria) is mainly Catholic and the North is mostly Protestant, but maybe I'm overestimating the influence of religion there. |
There definitely is a cultural divide across germany in terms of religion, for example in most of the north nobody celebrates carnival whereas in parts of middle and south germany it's a big deal. And south germany has more public (originally christian) holidays because protestants got rid of the all fun :( That said, the cultural divide between germany and austria is definitely bigger than between the german south and north. |
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| Silky Johnson |
Relevant-ish MTTS today for you Kenny.
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
I was mainly talking about the fact that you were concerned over my intellectual disability of having a different Interpretation of medieval Money lending. |
Slow down there, Woony; I never once said anything about your intellect or any lack thereof, I only said I was concerned about what you are being taught by your instructors. I must, charitably, assume that they're barely-paid graduate students lacking proper nutrition :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Argh, come on! I'm told it's because Franz Ferdinand died and then, a hundred years later, you tell me this?! How am I supposed to keep track of these things!? :mad: :p
(Seriously though, Russia? Weren't they busy getting all commie'd up anyway?) |
If you want to read up on the very complex beginning of WWI, I can't recommend Christopher Clark's The Sleepwalkers enough as a single-volume work on the topic. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Relevant-ish MTTS today for you Kenny.
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That's what it's all about! Dank! |
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| wotyzoid |
another iceberg
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
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The attention to detail paid by whoever made this is amazing :stongue:
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
If you want to read up on the very complex beginning of WWI, I can't recommend Christopher Clark's The Sleepwalkers enough as a single-volume work on the topic. |
I'll give it a read, cheers! |
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| Woony |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Slow down there, Woony; I never once said anything about your intellect or any lack thereof, I only said I was concerned about what you are being taught by your instructors. I must, charitably, assume that they're barely-paid graduate students lacking proper nutrition :p |
Maybe you didn't see it but I already talked about this twice in the old thread, german academia is very conservative, I wasn't taught most of anything I've said on here. Marxist history is basically nonexistent acadademically and german historiography gets all the major trends about 20 years late, in fact I never saw anyone offer a single course on marxism (there was one on the history of the workers movement), neither in the philosophy, nor in the history department. I took a grand total of one course on poststructuralism, which was a terribly run Focault course. So I have to compensate and read and spin wild theories online in my free time. Which means that it might not always adher to strict academic rigorosity but if everyone had to adher to that there'd be no more discussion on the Internet :gsmile:
I have not read Sleepwalkers but I remember it being an incredibly controversial Interpretation. In german academia it was almost always heavily critcised and sometimes just written off completely. But again, the question on germany's role in the war is not just a historiographical but still a hot button political issue here. |
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| Lews |
Of course it was controversial in Germany, it didn't say mea culpa and take all the blame for WWI - it dared to say that perhaps Austria and Germany weren't bloodsucking evildoers and that maybe Russia, France, and the Balkans were a bit to blame for what happened.
I understand the apologetics for the Nazis and WWII, though I think sometimes it goes on a bit too much, but this hatred of anything Prussian and the hesitancy to say perhaps WWI wasn't the German people's fault is such an un-charming trend of the last 70(+?) years. The world would be a much better place if Germany could see the pre-WWI situation with a bit more nuance, in my humble opinion. |
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| This is the most mind-boggling thread I have ever read, and that's actually kind of impressive, considering TA... |
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