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Friday 176: It's Brazil Day, hue hue hue br br!!! + Brazilian Elections (pg. 2)
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| I'm gayer than i was yesterday |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Hey Lira I forgot to mention I met a really nice Japanese couple and their toddler from Brazil at one of the parks in my neighborhood. The husband is going to school here, so they were asking me for leads on daycare for their daughter, heh. |
Cool! I wonder if they're from São Paulo or Paraná. Going to Canadá (to study and/or work) seems to be pretty popular among Japanese Brazilians there :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
How bad was the damage to Lira's back end? |
As of now, it looks fabulous :gsmile:
| quote: | Originally posted by Jon_Snow
Lira how’s your rear end doin. Still sore? :gsmile: |
Not really, she was gentle when she hit it :gsmile:
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance-M
Ah man, that sucks, saw your fb message and hoped the translation as often was bad. |
Yeah, could've been worse though. The repair shop will have it fixed in a week, and no one got hurt, so I guess it's all good :)
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
Honestly, that sucks that happened to bolsotario. Last thing I want is for that guy to be some kind of martyr. |
That's my greatest concern, actually.
And my hard left friends are also becoming increasingly hostile, posting conspiracy theories and the like. I seriously don't like where this is going. |
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| Zoso |
| Survived another crazy week at work. We've spent 6 months redesigning most of the network. All the I spent the last 8 years memorizing is nearly useless now, other than the foundational concepts. Until a few weeks ago, you would have woken me from a dead sleep at midnight, described a network problem, and I could trace the packets in my head. Now I can't even SSH into most of the damn switches, lol. Oh well...in time, I will have the new design memorized as well, hopefully. I should be on vacation in about 4 weeks, so it will be a struggle to get through the next month at full speed/motivation. No weekend plans other than mowing, if weather permits. The yard has FINALLY slowed down some. It's switched from crazy ass height/growth to the early fall "ugly as hell seed heads"...which means it's winding down. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
That's my greatest concern, actually.
And my hard left friends are also becoming increasingly hostile, posting conspiracy theories and the like. I seriously don't like where this is going. |
I don't know how any self respecting leftist can believe any conspiracy theory concerning this. The videos show very obviously what happeneded, no security at all, the guy with the knife was clearly coocoo. Isn't he a bum? It's like bolsonario is doing the same thing to Brazilian politics that trump did. If trump decided to get carried by a crowd of his followers down 5th ave I bet you some
crazy bum on the street would come up and shank him too. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Oh man, I was so drunk last night. Ended up talking absolute to some Australian girls at 3am in a Moroccan hookah joint. I think the only reason I don't have a stupendous hangover is that I'm probably still pissed. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I don't know how any self respecting leftist can believe any conspiracy theory concerning this. The videos show very obviously what happeneded, no security at all, the guy with the knife was clearly coocoo. Isn't he a bum? |
He waited tables for a living, but the guy is clearly missing a screw or two. He was also a member of the Socialism and Liberty Party for 7 years (he left in 2014 or something).
And, it's what the political climate has done. Once the left went full-truther with the whole "soft coup" thesis, persecution has been a common theme. It's as if the US had more than just two big parties and Bernie was impeached. Progressives are still seething about the Democratic primaries, can you imagine what it would be like if they managed to elect a president that cocked it up once in power and got impeached?
It. Would. Be. Hell. |
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Oh man, I was so drunk last night.... I think the only reason I don't have a stupendous hangover is that I'm probably still pissed. |
Yours? :)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Someone chuck this geezer the Big Book Of British slang. It'll twist his melon. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
He waited tables for a living, but the guy is clearly missing a screw or two. He was also a member of the Socialism and Liberty Party for 7 years (he left in 2014 or something).
And, it's what the political climate has done. Once the left went full-truther with the whole "soft coup" thesis, persecution has been a common theme. It's as if the US had more than just two big parties and Bernie was impeached. Progressives are still seething about the Democratic primaries, can you imagine what it would be like if they managed to elect a president that cocked it up once in power and got impeached?
It. Would. Be. Hell. |
I just still can't believe he got any traction. I grew up thinking Brazil would always kind of be a mostly progressive country as an emerging economy. This worldwide phenomena of right wing populism is bizarre and especially bizarre in brazil since there is really no immigration issue, instead it's an internal conflict. It's really ing stupid, it's like right wing brazilians want to be americans. America sucks, who wants to be america?
My uncle is one, I love him to death and he's one of my favorite people, but I'm gonna blow his spot up a little. He talks about brazil all day long, he comes to visit us, splurges, shops, goes travelling, buys us gifts. He says america is great, brazil is , this that, but he doesn't really think that. He doesn't wanna move here, he has a nice government salary, tenure, he's set. He doesn't even understand that people struggle here too.
He complains about PT and the people of the north, typical coxinha stuff. It's really a shame. People had no dignity at all, no living standards in parts of Brazil before Lula took office, I don't know much of what happened after that, but obviously a cluster of things for it to lead regular people to start propping up conservative talking points like we've heard from republicans here in this country for decades. It's sad to watch from afar. Brazil is following the same trends of inequality as america. People with money are so removed from the day to day and the conditions of living of the poor and working people in brazil, they don't even notice it. I do because when I go, I go everywhere. My uncle's condo in sao paulo, my aunt's house in the morro, I stay with my grandpa in the neighborhood I grew up in, which is really nothing fabulous. I see it, and it's really ed up. And way more ed up than here in some senses because the little safety net that brazilians have, the right wing is trying to get rid of as opposed to the relatively stable social programs we have here for people who are starving, and mandatory emergency care and all that that republicans would never even think of touching without fearing the outrage of the population. All of this without having to throw the blame at "the immigrants taking our jobs", blame other brazilians. Identity politics at a whole new level.
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance-M
Yours? :)
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I think he means, he woke up drunk.
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| Trance-M |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I think he means, he woke up drunk.[/IMG] |
I know he did, but when I saw that picture this afternoon I remembered reading drunk and pissed this morning. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I just still can't believe he got any traction. I grew up thinking Brazil would always kind of be a mostly progressive country as an emerging economy. This worldwide phenomena of right wing populism is bizarre and especially bizarre in brazil since there is really no immigration issue, instead it's an internal conflict. It's really ing stupid, it's like right wing brazilians want to be americans. America sucks, who wants to be america? |
Here's the thing: the left, the centre-left, and the centre are divided between 7 candidates or so. As a centrist, I'd pick Henrique Meirelles, but Marina Silva has a better shot at being elected, and Ciro Gomes in the centre-left is doing better than Geraldo Alckmin in the centre-right, so I'd also give him a chance. That means I don't have one candidate to choose from, but four, and that's just the centre.
Oh, and there's Haddad. He exists.
The right, on the other hand, has Bolsonaro and Daciolo (who is too extreme even to Bolsonaro voters). Amoedo has the libertarian vote, but libertarianism is too weak to make a dent on Bolsonaro's support. Some other candidates, like Eymael, are redundant, because he'd have the religious vote - but that's irrelevant when all candidates are Christian.
The thing is, Bolsonaro loses to pretty much everyone in the run-off (except to Haddad, then it's a tie). That's when the electorate has just two candidates to choose from.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
My uncle is one, I love him to death and he's one of my favorite people, but I'm gonna blow his spot up a little. He talks about brazil all day long, he comes to visit us, splurges, shops, goes travelling, buys us gifts. He says america is great, brazil is , this that, but he doesn't really think that. He doesn't wanna move here, he has a nice government salary, tenure, he's set. He doesn't even understand that people struggle here too.
He complains about PT and the people of the north, typical coxinha stuff. |
That's actually pretty common down here. I grew up listening to this nonsense (never bought it though, as I came to age during an economic boom that lasted 20 years or so). It's quite prevalent among my students though, and it breaks my heart because they're the first ones to knock on Brazil to the foreign students who come because they're interested in the country :(
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
People had no dignity at all, no living standards in parts of Brazil before Lula took office, I don't know much of what happened after that, but obviously a cluster of things for it to lead regular people to start propping up conservative talking points like we've heard from republicans here in this country for decades. |
Before FHC took office, actually, no? Lula then kept doing the right things, but the country began to get on track in 1994 with the Real Plan - that's when social inequality began to go down, and then Lula accelerated the process with the implementation of Bolsa Família and the like. My wife came from a poor rural background, and she says that's when she managed to start buying new clothes.
This is a very oversimplified account of what happened, but public spending protected us from the 2009 Financial Crisis and, when government was supposed to stop spending so much, the population got mad at the Olympics and the World Cup and then Dilma doubled down to appease the populace. Calling it "disastrous" would be an understatement, so congress showed her the door.
When it all unravelled and the economy was in tatters, there was one clear culprit: the Workers Party. That's both unfair and quite effective.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
It's sad to watch from afar. Brazil is following the same trends of inequality as america. People with money are so removed from the day to day and the conditions of living of the poor and working people in brazil, they don't even notice it. I do because when I go, I go everywhere. My uncle's condo in sao paulo, my aunt's house in the morro, I stay with my grandpa in the neighborhood I grew up in, which is really nothing fabulous. I see it, and it's really ed up. And way more ed up than here in some senses because the little safety net that brazilians have, the right wing is trying to get rid of as opposed to the relatively stable social programs we have here for people who are starving, and mandatory emergency care and all that that republicans would never even think of touching without fearing the outrage of the population. |
Yeah, I feel it on a daily basis. It's heart-wrenching :( |
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| wotyzoid |
Yeah I had bolsa familia in my head, but you're absolutely right, before even Lula took office things were already going in the right direction.
I forget this is only the primaries. Hopefully, if he makes it through, whoever faces him can consolidate the popular vote .
| quote: | This is a very oversimplified account of what happened, but public spending protected us from the 2009 Financial Crisis and, when government was supposed to stop spending so much, the population got mad at the Olympics and the World Cup and then Dilma doubled down to appease the populace. Calling it "disastrous" would be an understatement, so congress showed her the door.
When it all unravelled and the economy was in tatters, there was one clear culprit: the Workers Party. That's both unfair and quite effective. |
This is what I thought had happened, but I wasn't sure. Thanks Lira. |
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