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Friday 176: It's Brazil Day, hue hue hue br br!!! + Brazilian Elections (pg. 3)
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Mebot
Happy Independence day Lira

Sorry about your rear-ending

Sorry this post is late

sorry about everything I may have said in the past

Good day
Lira
Obrigado, Mebot! And, it's fine, you're back from the wilderness and we missed you, and that's all that matters :)
Mebot
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Originally posted by Lira
“All I have learned, I learned from basslines.”


wait wut?
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Mebot
wait wut?

I used to have a hipster Abraham Lincoln as my avatar, and Abe's original quote was "all I have learned, I learned from books".

I'll switch back to him after the Brazilian general election (I'm currently using the crest of an anti-far right football team).
wotyzoid
Commie!
Mebot
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I used to have a hipster Abraham Lincoln as my avatar, and Abe's original quote was "all I have learned, I learned from books".

I'll switch back to him after the Brazilian general election (I'm currently using the crest of an anti-far right football team).


no your avatar for the longest was your face grinning or maybe it was someone else... anyways read below

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Originally posted by wotyzoid
Commie!
LoveHate
What does this mean for the rainforest
wotyzoid
I for one think the implications are bigger than the rainforest. We are all gonna ing die. This whole new batch of Cor babies, probably all dead by 60.
wotyzoid
2055 max the world ends, just a guess, we are not gonna go very far. I hope I am completely wrong.
Lira
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Originally posted by LoveHate
What does this mean for the rainforest

Nothing yet. I've just had a word with a conservative friend who works in the Ministry for Agriculture, and rumour has it the odds of a merger with the Ministry for The Environment have dropped to zero. Leaving the Paris Climate Agreement also seems to have become something of a non-starter, so I'm breathing a sigh of relief.

Thing is, no matter how extreme Bolsonaro's views are, his powers are much more limited than Trump's - and that's why I'm not exactly a happy panda. Brazil has a history of leaders frustrated with systems of checks and balances, although we've only become a fully-fledged democracy from 85 onward. I suspect a Bolsonaro presidency will be a stress test to the system, and he shouldn't be able to do much of what he has promised because he has little legislative support (except in specific topics), and he has already made enemies in the Supreme Court and in the media... So only time will tell if he'll behave or if he'll want to upend the system.

wotyzoid
Let's talk about this.

Whereas American neo-nazi's are pussies and easily punchable if you're willing to stick your neck out for an assault charge, Brazilian neo-nazi's are a little bit more hardcore and smarter, I think. The good thing about nazi's is that they're mostly all cowards wherever you go, but the problem with Brazil is that they can ride this populism wave and sneak under the radar. Brazil has a lot of cultural and racial tensions that went unaddressed for decades and all of this just lingers if you don't bring it up. I know everyone wants to enjoy Halloween or whatever but I feel like these last few weeks and the weeks coming up will scream through history.
Sand Leaper
I'm having a bit of a hard time slotting traditional national socialist ideology (lebensraum, blood and soil, racial purity) into a South American context, despite the obvious racial tension. Antisemitism in Brazil is among the lowest in the world despite having one of the largest jewish communities in the world. Furthermore, Bolsonaro will have to perform some extraordinary mental gymnastics to get Hitler's concept of an aryan race to fit into Brazilian demographics (Mussolini famously had to bicker with Hitler over this, resulting in the inane mediterraneism vs. nordicism debate).

If anything, I'd be more worried that Bolsonaro will essentially be picking up the reactionary thread where Augusto Pinochet left off in Chile. He'll want to harness the military to kill off lefty opposition, fortify the class strata by eliminating social programs and unions and ramp up state violence and vigilantism in the slums a la Rodrigo Duterte. The question then becomes whether this will be enough to tip the scale over to full blown civil war, which he can then capitalise on to reintroduce the military junta.
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