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World Cup 2026 (pg. 4)
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
(I'm double posting this ...because I can)
It's Friday and Canada hosted it's first World Cup Game!
Will we make it out of the group stage? ;) :wtf: |
The team did score One (1) Goal, and earned One (1) Point, which seems to be enough to get a bunch of 'Historic Game' headlines out of it. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You see, this is your problem right here. You're trying to do the classic "Yank who lived in London for five minutes and now considers himself an honourary Brit" shtick but you keep ing up the details. No Brit is saying "boner". It'd be "stiffy".
I recommend you take the minor correction in good grace, because I've saved you from embarrassing yourself when you meet some pissed up Wolves fans in person in some tourist trap Greek taverna and start going "Gee, did you guys you see that comeback from the Wolves? That final play was super clutch!" |
Loool. Footy bloke shagging. TA's very own Hilaria Baldwin, OrangestO.
Even now that it's a desert this place still delivers once in a while. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
The team did score One (1) Goal, and earned One (1) Point, which seems to be enough to get a bunch of 'Historic Game' headlines out of it. |
I like that this was the most Canadian opening ever. Canada scored a goal, conceded another, earned a point, and also gave another point away politely to both Bosnia and Herzegovina, whoever they are :D
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
Will we make it out of the group stage? ;) :wtf: |
As long as Canada beats Qatar, a near certainty, preferably by more goals than Switzerland will score in a few minutes then, yeah, even a third place scenario is more probable than just plausible. I have to update my model but, long before the World Cup started, Canada already had a 83% chance of advancing to the knockout stage and 42% of making it to the Round of 16... roughly the same odds as Morocco, which has actually had a good run in the last few years, reaching the semifinals in the last world cup. So, yeah, Canada should do well. In the words of a famous Canadian philosopher, give your balls a tug :p
And, Qatar is one goal down already.
Edit: Unsurprisingly, what was supposed to be an onslaught has remained predictably neutral. Typical Switzerland. You know what? Canada actually has a shot at topping this group. A Hail Mary, Nunavut-bound shot, perhaps, but a shot nonetheless. |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
Loool. Footy bloke shagging. TA's very own Hilaria Baldwin, OrangestO.
Even now that it's a desert this place still delivers once in a while. |
Pleased someone found the humo(u)r in it. Cheers. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
As long as Canada beats Qatar, a near certainty |
Is it a near certainty? Canada didn't beat B&H, who have a lower FIFA ranking than Qatar. Switzerland are a fairly handy side and they haven't exactly battered them (EDIT: immediately after I posted it's 1-1). Is this just Lira humour? |
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| Lira |
We... equalised!? Don't play with my heart, Vini, don't give me this much hope just yet :( :D
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Is it a near certainty? Canada didn't beat B&H, who have a lower FIFA ranking than Qatar. Switzerland are a fairly handy side and they haven't exactly battered them (EDIT: immediately after I posted it's 1-1). Is this just Lira humour? |
Probability wise, nearly as high as Switzerland's was, plus a home base advantage (I don't have my computer with me right now). I don't take these numbers that seriously because I know how percentages work and a low scoring sport like football is likely to have upsets every now and then, but... sometimes the maths checks out :p |
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| Lira |
Well... we haven't lost yet. Thats good enough a result for me :p
It's weird how nervous the Brazilian side looked right after kickoff, and it took a Moroccan goal for us to step up our game. Could've been much worse for us, given that we actually lost our last friendly against Morocco, and the Taha team clinched their ticket to the World Cup before any other African squad. If we didn't crumble against Morocco, this means we might have a fighting chance of reaching the quarterfinals, as usual. On an unrelated note, I kinda wish Morocco had a third kit collab with Karl Hyde or something. I'd pay crazy money for a Deep Blue Underworld inspired jersey :D
Anyway, this is a reminder that we're in the timeline in which South Korea (plus Mexico), the United States (together with Australia), and Scotland are currently all top of their respective groups in number of points.
Congrats, Stu! |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Probability wise, nearly as high as Switzerland's was, plus a home base advantage (I don't have my computer with me right now). I don't take these numbers that seriously because I know how percentages work and a low scoring sport like football is likely to have upsets every now and then, but... sometimes the maths checks out :p |
Right. Are you going to do this for the whole tournament? You've announced some "model" you've created without explaining in any way how it works and you're just going to give us constant updates without ever explaining the rationale.
I don't see any reason why it would be a near-certainty that Canada will beat Qatar. Qatar aren't complete mugs - they won the Asian Cup in 2023, which is a more significant achievement than anything this Canada squad has done recently. I know it's virtually impossible to get eliminated from this World Cup at the group stage, but the Canadians look very vulnerable to me after failing to win an extremely soft opening game. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Congrats, Stu! |
Thank you, brother.
Honestly though, when this rolls around every 4 years, Oz is just pretty glad to have qualified, lol.
That said... suck it, Türkiye.
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| Midlothian |
| Our boys from Curaçao taking their cue from Brazil :cool: I'm sure that'll be two butcherings on one day if the Japanese have us well done on the teppanyaki |
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| Lira |
*double triggered*
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| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Right. Are you going to do this for the whole tournament? You've announced some "model" you've created without explaining in any way how it works and you're just going to give us constant updates without ever explaining the rationale. |
Well, it's more accurate to say I keep fighting my own model, really - it had given the Netherlands a 40% shot at victory, but up until recently supporting whatever team played Japan was the safer choice, as they've yet to reach the quarterfinals.
As for the model, it's really simple: I ran 10 thousand elo-based Monte Carlo despair routines, as I've not had the time to adjust for goals (for and against), and it's... acceptable. I might improve it someday. For this match, there was a 20% chance they'd tie, so it wasn't wildly improbable it was neither the result I hoped for (nor the one I dreaded most). Here are the numbers it churned:
Group |
Team |
Elo |
Avg Group Pts |
Make R32 |
Make R16 |
Make QF |
Make SF |
Make Final |
Win Cup |
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| H | Spain | 2157 | 6.74 | 96.9% | 70.8% | 52.6% | 40.1% | 28.5% | 18.8% |
| J | Argentina | 2115 | 6.13 | 93.0% | 62.9% | 47.3% | 33.7% | 22.8% | 14.6% |
| I | France | 2063 | 5.64 | 90.2% | 65.5% | 44.1% | 29.3% | 16.7% | 9.7% |
| L | England | 2024 | 5.81 | 91.3% | 60.0% | 36.7% | 22.1% | 12.5% | 6.8% |
| C | Brazil | 1991 | 5.65 | 89.9% | 56.9% | 34.6% | 20.1% | 10.4% | 5.1% |
| K | Portugal | 1989 | 5.27 | 85.7% | 54.1% | 31.8% | 17.8% | 9.8% | 5.0% |
| K | Colombia | 1982 | 5.22 | 85.4% | 53.2% | 30.9% | 17.3% | 9.3% | 4.5% |
| F | Netherlands | 1948 | 5.25 | 85.7% | 48.9% | 29.8% | 15.9% | 7.5% | 3.5% |
| E | Ecuador | 1938 | 5.48 | 89.5% | 52.8% | 28.2% | 15.1% | 6.8% | 3.0% |
| E | Germany | 1932 | 5.45 | 89.1% | 52.1% | 26.5% | 14.4% | 6.6% | 2.9% |
| D | Turkey | 1911 | 4.85 | 80.0% | 50.8% | 26.9% | 11.8% | 5.6% | 2.5% |
| I | Norway | 1914 | 4.50 | 76.8% | 44.7% | 24.4% | 12.6% | 5.6% | 2.3% |
| L | Croatia | 1912 | 4.97 | 83.6% | 45.4% | 22.7% | 11.6% | 5.2% | 2.2% |
| B | Switzerland | 1891 | 5.76 | 90.9% | 55.9% | 27.9% | 11.9% | 5.2% | 2.1% |
| F | Japan | 1906 | 4.91 | 81.9% | 43.4% | 24.7% | 12.1% | 5.2% | 2.1% |
| A | Mexico | 1875 | 6.23 | 97.3% | 59.8% | 28.4% | 12.4% | 5.2% | 2.0% |
| G | Belgium | 1894 | 5.31 | 86.1% | 51.8% | 26.0% | 10.6% | 4.9% | 2.0% |
| H | Uruguay | 1892 | 4.80 | 82.7% | 38.8% | 21.5% | 10.7% | 4.9% | 2.0% |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I don't see any reason why it would be a near-certainty that Canada will beat Qatar. Qatar aren't complete mugs - they won the Asian Cup in 2023, which is a more significant achievement than anything this Canada squad has done recently. I know it's virtually impossible to get eliminated from this World Cup at the group stage, but the Canadians look very vulnerable to me after failing to win an extremely soft opening game. |
At least according to my model, they're next to last, only beating Curaçao at hopelessness. Even bookmakers give Canada a higher than 75% shot at winning, a more conservative bunch than I am, so I do stand by what I said. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
That's bonkers. Worse than Haiti or Cape Verde? It's totally possible Canada will beat them, I just think saying it's a near certainty is "DJ RANN on election night 2016" levels of over-confidence.
Maybe I'll stick a bet on Qatar against Canada, looking at those odds. |
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