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Grundsatzdiskussion: Prog. vs. Uplifting
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| TranceGiant |
Dies ist wohl mein erster "on-topic" thread seit..einiger Zeit :toothless
Wie is eure Meinung zu dieser Kontroverse, die das music-discussion forum schon seit Ewigkeiten in Atem hält? Glaubt ihr auch, wie ein großteil es immer wieder propagiert, dass man sich den progressive geschmack "aneignen" muss und dass dieser dann sozusagen die höhere, nächste Stufe nach uplifting sei ?
Wie sind eure eigenen Erfahrungen damit?
In meinem Fall gabs tatsächlich zuerst uplifting und dann progressive, ABER das eine hat das andere bis heute nicht ausgeschlossen. Es war kein Ersatz sondern lediglich eine, wenn auch fundamentale, Ergänzung. Ich kann sowohl düsteren tribal house wie Steve Lawler's "Lights Out" hören, als auch gute-laune Platten wo eine Trance-Hymne die nächste jagt wie z.b. "Ferry vs. Armin - Trancematch"! |
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| Sir. Lunchalot |
| Reden wir später drüber! Jetzt übernehmen wir erstmal den Hub!:D |
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| TranceRulez |
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| Bloodflower |
Ich liebe beides...
maybe 60% uplifting 40% progressive |
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| Civic |
Bei mir hält es sich so 50-50, aber ich glaube schon, dass Progressiv eher der Style ist, in den man sich wirklich hereinhören muss und der im Endeffekt auch "anspruchsvoller" (das Wort klingt irgendwie bekloppt) ist.
Keiner, der niemals auch nur einen Happen Trance kennt würde Tracks wie James Holden - Solstice gut finden, da die entscheidenen Elemente solcher Tracks einem erst offensichtlich werden, wenn man schon vieles aus dem Bereich gehört hat und das Ohr "geschulter" ist.
Bei uplifting Tracks wie z.b. Silverblue - Step Back schaut das schon ganz anders aus, da können fast alle spontan mitfeiern.
Früher dachte ich immer, bei Progressive wäre nicht so eine gute Stimmung in der Crowd wie bei Uplifting Trance, aber seitdem ich Paul Oakenfold gehört habe, weiss ich, dass gerade diese Ruhe und teilweise extremen Flächen und Breaks am Ende doch ne geniale Athmosphäre schaffen :)
Aber Progressive bleibt für mich am Ende doch eher die Musik für zu Hause und wenn ich weggehe, würde ich mich am meisten über ne ordentliche Portion Uplifting Trance freuen....
Eigentlich ist so ne Diskussion im Endeffekt auch überflüssig, da jeder die Musik hören soll die er gut findet und diese Musik für jeden auch die wichtigste ist. Ob jetzt irgendwelche davon schwerer zu produzieren oder der nächste Schritt in einer Evolution ist, spielt ja eigentlich keine Rolle *g* |
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| Parafox |
| wenn ich irgendwann mal einer halbwegs brauchbaren Definition zu Progr. und Uplifting über den Weg laufen würde könnt ich hier auch ne Antwort posten - irgendwie fällt es mir schwer Trance in seine Subgenres rein zu pressen... |
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| dEEkAy |
Hmm...also dass Progressive die nächste Stufe zu Uplifting sei, das propagieren ja nur die Progressive-Fans selber.
Diese nehmen dann auch eine arrogante Haltung ein dass "Uplifting" nur Kindermusik sei usw usf.
Ich finde aber beides gut :) Und gerade bei längeren Sets ist es immer gut wenn der DJ von beidem etwas spielt. Den Anfang macht da ja eh meist Progressive bevor es dann langsam richtung Uplifting geht.
Nur bei "Progressive Trance" spaltet sich dann auch wieder der Begriff und jeder versteht was anders drunter. |
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| Bloodflower |
beispiel für progressive:
Sasha -Xpander
für uplifting:
Second sun - Empire
ist doch so richtig
Oder? |
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| Sir. Lunchalot |
| quote: | Originally posted by kurai
Techno :disbelief |
Wenn Du jetzt was anderes gesagt hättest, hätte ich es Dir auch nicht geglaubt.:p |
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| jploveparade |
| Trancecore :disbelief |
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| Bloodflower |
| Hardcore!!! und zwar aus paint!!! oder wie kriegst du diese ekligen schriften ummer hin in deinen sigs jp??? |
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