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Trance is simple (pg. 9)
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| SuperFarStucker |
| quote: | Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Producing a track that people are going to want to listen to seems like it should be simple... Until you try to do it. Plain and simple. It takes skill. It's not something that you can just up and decide to do. You have to learn the method. You have to understand the structure. Sounds to me like branmuffin is just looking for attention. |
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| tc-fan |
| its not how simple it is...is how amazing it sounds.... |
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| JulesPLees |
| Branmuffin...you are listening to the wrong trance |
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| colonelcrisp |
Im going to try my best to make this as un offensive to all parties as possible. Comparing Trance to Jazz, classical, rock etc is like trying to debate the characteristics of a tbone steak and an apple. By nature trance has to be somewhat repetetive, have you ever heard of a hypnotist using nu fuzion jazz to put someone under hypnosis?? probably not. Trance is repetetive from face value but not repetetive in its intricasies which as stated before come from effects and background noises, secondary and tirtiary melodies aswell as layering. and for the record standard trance melodies are 32 beats or 8 measures, not 4. there are some tracks that use tempo changes or keychanges but the majority do not. some examples would be mauro picotto - komodo (megavoices mix) or nitelife - french kiss (scot project remix). The problem with tracks with tempo changes in teh middle is its pretty much impossible to fast mix out of them since you have to wait for the track to come up to speed again. Trance is not the only repeteive genre out there though. out side of the EDM scene. rock is formulaic and has been the verse chorus verse chourus pattern for songs has been in use since the dawn of freakin rock music. and is still widely used today. although there are many rock songs that dont follow the fold, the same can be applied to EDM where some tracks or artists dont follow the pattern either ie Kraftwerk. I will break off to pure opinion for a second... rap defines repetetive. its a constant percussion track, with some sort of basssy riff and maybe some scratching and or samples and then some idiot spitting out crap about how he has a glock and some hoes and some mad cash.... blah blah blah crap!! but the sweet aint as sweet without the sour right?? so we need genres like progressive house and rap to remind us how great and cool trance is :toothless . As for Classical, to retort the example of pachebell cannon in D, in fact this song is about as close to trance as classical gets. its one freakin theme to the whole piece. layered melodies that build up from teh begining starting with teh cello's repetetive bass line... then adding your violins and viola's with the 4 or 5 part melody. alot of trance tracks do not contain only one melody some have 4 or 5 different melodies. as with classical music melodic themes are revisited mulitlple times through a piece in different forms, not unlike trance which will use similar melodies with different synths or maybe different note patterns. I think going about trying to prove any genre of music more intelligent than another is futile (unless your talking about cRAP or prog.... he he) musical tastes are a matter of personal taste and im sure there are some nasa rocket scientists out there who listen to dj sammy and 50 cent..... so calling trance simplistic is completely wrong in my opinion. Im sure if you heard Beethoven's Fur Elise redone using cheesy fruity loops synths you would call it simplistic too. no personal digs here, but starting a thread like this on a board called trance addict is like wearing a sign that says "god bless america" through the middle east.... and no offence to my neighboors down south but even you know what would happen if you did that... :P Comparing trance to classical isnt right. there are many similarities and there are many differences. but you cant argue which one is better overall. theya re completely different genres of music. its like trying to debate which religion is better (although we all know its scientology...:haha: ) and all that has caused over the year is war.
thats my 0.02$ |
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| JulesPLees |
| woah that post needs a blurb |
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| smallSHEEP |
| I posted in this thread over a year ago!! The guy who started it never got past trancaddict status lol. :clown: |
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| zenperson |
For me, trance music represents hope... When I listen to it, I feel this inner sense of hope for the world around me... I think it's safe to say that hope in the modern world is not simple... I don't wake up every day with this soulful sense of hope because every day I'm shown on a large scale that the world is so full of everything that is bad....
Yes, most trance music follows a simple structure...most music does. Most all songs in a specific genre follow some patern. That's what makes a musical form.. much like Baroque or Rock and Roll, or jazz. Beats, scales, and the layout of the song...
But, on a much deeper level, trance really tugs at the soul on a deep level.... A lot of chorale and classical music is very soulfuly moving, some rock like Pink Floyd, and even some pop. But, I think that trance attracts mostly complex and deep people because we're able to connect with a part of ourselves that a lot of people in the world never connect with. We love that complex feeling of a musical journey that triggers some type of emotion and moves us to express it through dance.
Anyway, so in summary, yes it's simple, but it's also complex. A state of trance is not a simple state for most people and not a state most simple people can reach..... :stongue: |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by JulesPLees
Branmuffin...you are listening to the wrong trance |
Brainmuffin hasn't posted since January 2003. Why do you guys keep replying to this thread? :o |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Some idiot resurrected this thread, and some other idiots missed the posts that told everyone this. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| man i knew my keyboard was missing a key!! LOL |
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| fathomless1 |
| Kelis - Milkshake is a simple song and it is making loads of money! Ha! I dont listen to music to be complicated. If I want something to be complicated, I will pull out a calculus book. |
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| Plastick |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_bastard
I don't see how you can judge the compexity of any art quantitively. Isn't this a wee bit like looking at a painting and working out how many colours were used to achieve the final work? |
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I don't see any problem with ppl resurrecting threads. At least they use the 'search' button before making a new thread of the same topic. And also, this is a discussion board. |
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